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I want to see that IRL. Is there any more compelling evidence that that actually works?

by oskarkv 15y ago

iterationx 15y ago
If you study Neuro-Linguistic Programming, the Structure of Magic I & II, Milton Erickson, and Alfred Korzybski, it won't seem that magical. Part of the trick is that during a routine operation - like a handshake - or asking for directions - you're brain drops down a level of awareness - you are basically on auto-pilot - but the illusionist interrupts the operation, you're still stuck in sub-optimal awareness pattern, and then you get manipulated in some fashion. If you liked that one, this one cracks me up everytime, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdlItEIj8bg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdlItEIj8bg
- merloen 15y ago
  I interpreted that last video more as a status game, actually. The guy, immaculately dressed with a posh british accent, creates a status differential by talking fast and flawless, by touching her a lot. This makes it very unappealing for her to flat-out contradict him. She's just giving him socially acceptable answers.
  - munificent 15y ago
    It's not arbitrary touching. When he's asking her about something she's unsure of, he consistently touches her left shoulder. When he talks to her about something sure, he touches her right. Then he uses those same touches when he wants to make her unsure or a color, or feel sure that a color is the wrong one he says it is. I don't know to what degree that actually works, but it's pretty interesting.
    - nollidge 15y ago
      That could just be misdirection...
    - barefoot 15y ago
      Also known as kinesthetic anchoring, the bread and butter of basic NLP. It's pretty controversial like the rest of the material and is probably utterly ineffective.
      - SergeyHack 15y ago
        There are a lot of subtle details required to make this effective, so it is indeed art.
    - Helianthus16 15y ago
      The fact that _he_ believes it is important which shoulder he touches produces enough an effect that one can be fooled into thinking the touches have the power instead of the belief.

I want to see that IRL. Is there any more compelling evidence that that actually works?

by oskarkv 15y ago

I want to see that IRL. Is there any more compelling evidence that that actually works?

If you study Neuro-Linguistic Programming, the Structure of Magic I & II, Milton Erickson, and Alfred Korzybski, it won't seem that magical. Part of the trick is that during a routine operation - like a handshake - or asking for directions - you're brain drops down a level of awareness - you are basically on auto-pilot - but the illusionist interrupts the operation, you're still stuck in sub-optimal awareness pattern, and then you get manipulated in some fashion. If you liked that one, this one cracks me up everytime, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdlItEIj8bg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdlItEIj8bg

merloen 15y ago
I interpreted that last video more as a status game, actually. The guy, immaculately dressed with a posh british accent, creates a status differential by talking fast and flawless, by touching her a lot. This makes it very unappealing for her to flat-out contradict him. She's just giving him socially acceptable answers.
- munificent 15y ago
  It's not arbitrary touching. When he's asking her about something she's unsure of, he consistently touches her left shoulder. When he talks to her about something sure, he touches her right. Then he uses those same touches when he wants to make her unsure or a color, or feel sure that a color is the wrong one he says it is. I don't know to what degree that actually works, but it's pretty interesting.
  - nollidge 15y ago
    That could just be misdirection...
  - barefoot 15y ago
    Also known as kinesthetic anchoring, the bread and butter of basic NLP. It's pretty controversial like the rest of the material and is probably utterly ineffective.
    - SergeyHack 15y ago
      There are a lot of subtle details required to make this effective, so it is indeed art.
  - Helianthus16 15y ago
    The fact that _he_ believes it is important which shoulder he touches produces enough an effect that one can be fooled into thinking the touches have the power instead of the belief.