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(Of course Cloudflare shouldn’t spam people who have quit their service). But I think posts like this explain why I’m not a huge GDPR fan yet. On the one hand

(Of course Cloudflare shouldn’t spam people who have quit their service). But I think posts like this explain why I’m not a huge GDPR fan yet. On the one hand we have enormous tracking empires, who most likely are maliciously compliant with GDPR. They have probably not lost much precision / revenue due to the legislation. Mostly business as usual. Then on the other side we have “normal” companies who are doing mostly “normal” crappy stuff all larger enterprises do. Clouddlare aren’t maliciously spamming people, they’re just incompetent handling their email lists. And sure it’s not a great look, but keeping someone’s email address around is probably not something governmental agencies should get involved in, in most cases. The tone used in this post would, for me, be appropriate if Cloudflare did something horrible with your data. Selling traffic infi to data-aggregation firms, having lax security for accessing your customer portal, beeing hacked and leaking data etc. Not “just” being sloppy with ther mailing lists.

luckylion 6y ago
> And sure it’s not a great look, but keeping someone’s email address around is probably not something governmental agencies should get involved in, in most cases. Why not? They are unwilling or unable to do it without government intervention. I agree that for an honest mistake you don't need the government to step in. But after a year and multiple tries and broken promises, it's not an honest mistake, it's either intentional or gross incompetence. I especially like that they keep stuff despite GDPR to "comply with internal policies and legal obligations". Making up an internal policy has no relevance to GDPR whatsoever (otherwise it would be quite easy "sorry, we have an internal policy to keep all your data forever"). Sounds like they simply don't care about GDPR.
lawtalkinghuman 6y ago
"Oh, my private data got leaked all over the darkweb, but it is fine because the company that collected it is merely incompetent rather than malicious", said nobody ever.
- cxr 6y ago
  Comments like this one are probably not helpful in the overall scheme. The people who agree with you (like me) already agree with you, and I strongly disagree with the way of thinking by the person you're responding to, especially wrt this piece: > Then on the other side we have “normal” companies who are doing mostly “normal” crappy stuff all larger enterprises do. Clouddlare aren’t maliciously spamming people, they’re just incompetent handling their email lists. ... but your comment seems to be mostly self-serving and geared towards points-scoring.

luckylion 6y ago

> And sure it’s not a great look, but keeping someone’s email address around is probably not something governmental agencies should get involved in, in most cases. Why not? They are unwilling or unable to do it without government intervention. I agree that for an honest mistake you don't need the government to step in. But after a year and multiple tries and broken promises, it's not an honest mistake, it's either intentional or gross incompetence. I especially like that they keep stuff despite GDPR to "comply with internal policies and legal obligations". Making up an internal policy has no relevance to GDPR whatsoever (otherwise it would be quite easy "sorry, we have an internal policy to keep all your data forever"). Sounds like they simply don't care about GDPR.

lawtalkinghuman 6y ago

"Oh, my private data got leaked all over the darkweb, but it is fine because the company that collected it is merely incompetent rather than malicious", said nobody ever.

cxr 6y ago
Comments like this one are probably not helpful in the overall scheme. The people who agree with you (like me) already agree with you, and I strongly disagree with the way of thinking by the person you're responding to, especially wrt this piece: > Then on the other side we have “normal” companies who are doing mostly “normal” crappy stuff all larger enterprises do. Clouddlare aren’t maliciously spamming people, they’re just incompetent handling their email lists. ... but your comment seems to be mostly self-serving and geared towards points-scoring.