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justinclift 6y ago
I read the article. It sounded like he had a really bad experience at the Sea View Resort (on Wesley Barnes), so left reviews at lots of places warning people. That's literally the whole point of writing reviews. To let others know what places are good, bad, etc. Hopefully more people find out about the stupid treatment of this guy by the resort, as taking legal action against an ex-customer for giving bad reviews is far beyond reasonable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
- listenallyall 6y ago
  This is opposite of Streisand effect. It's turning out to be terrific free publicity for this island resort with 4.5 stars on Trip Advisor, and actually portrays the resort as victim of a loser guest who was asked to pay a standard corkage fee, refused, then went off and accused the resort of slavery. I mean, just the top image on the Yahoo link, of a gorgeous beachfront, looks pretty great right now. Here's a tip, when you visit, or move to, a foreign country, expect to live by its laws, not the laws of the country you left.
  - justinclift 6y ago
    > It's turning out to be terrific free publicity for this island resort ... Let me guess. They've had all of the negative reviews deleted, by threatening to put more people in jail? That's one way to do it...
    - unnameduser1 6y ago
      Are you implying that the resort is suing every customer who gives negative reviews? And if so where is the proof. If not, then it’s just a silly statement made up by you.
      - justinclift 6y ago
        Are you kidding? They took a customer to court after that person had a bad experience and went around telling others about it. Were the contents of the guys reviews all peaches and cream? Heck no. He comes off as a prick (my opinion). But this place, clearly has form in making threats and getting the Thai legal system involved against negative reviewers. How are we to know the resort isn't just making crap up and "abusing the system" to remove negative reviews? That could as easily be the case, and seems more likely.
        unnameduser1 6y ago
        Your assumptions are just assumptions = not backed by facts. In reality he could be Elvis born again and also to him laws would still apply. If the resort would have made up the comments they say he posted, then they would be in much more legal trouble than he is now. From statements that were posted as screenshots he might be also technically liable for violations of cybercrime act. But that hasn’t been announced or he hasn’t been charged yet for that. From where I’m standing, the guy looks like someone who went overboard to not just complain but incriminate himself. That’s what counts. Honestly, every business has customers that complain. You can’t please everyone. But if someone were to make certain statements about my business, employees etc, I would also use my legal rights to fight abuse. I have myself complained for decades very harshly about other business on social media, their own TW/FB/Google profiles and haven’t been sued by anyone. It would be interesting what the guy can state as his side of the story apart of the incriminating screenshots from online platforms. Edit: typo
        unnameduser1 6y ago
        Are you for real? Refusing to pay a corkage fee is “bad experience”? His comments are below the belt and inappropriate.
  - ratww 6y ago
    I don't know. The only thing I knew about Thailand is that it's a beautiful country. Now that I know about this case, I wouldn't consider setting foot there out of principle... and fear. And as someone who's in this field: this is going to have deep repercussions in the traveling industry and people will definitely rethink how reviews work for Thailand. Some friends from travel-related startups already posted the link in private chat. That was a bad idea both for the hotel and for Thailand's travel industry. Also: Sites like TripAdvisor also don't want to risk having potentially libellous accusations in their reviews, so they would certainly try to work together with the hotel (as they did, since they removed a previous review).
    - listenallyall 6y ago
      Not sure what principles you're standing by, unless you mean the right to be an asshole and accuse a company of slavery. Indeed, Thailand is an amazing, beautiful country, it's nobody's loss but yours if a "Florida-man" type of story will influence your travel plans. On the other hand, if you simply insist on absolute freedom of speech across the entire globe, and can't trust yourself to ever self-censor, then yes I would suggest you stay away, lest you run afoul of Thailand's lese-majeste laws.
- leaveyou 6y ago
  I think the story in the original link is too one-sided to have a definitive opinion about the customer.. check the second link (from parent comment) for more details and see if it changes anything. https://mothership.sg/2020/09/sea-view-resort-defamation-lawsuit/ https://mothership.sg/2020/09/sea-view-resort-defamation-law...
- unnameduser1 6y ago
  Justin you don’t seem to have a grasp of the legal system in Thailand. People can write negative reviews. But there is a line which one shouldn’t cross as it becomes illegal. Lots of people write negative reviews and don’t get into legal trouble in Thailand. So hopefully people don’t just assume things based on imagination and get some more facts before judging the case

I read the article. It sounded like he had a really bad experience at the Sea View Resort (on Wesley Barnes), so left reviews at lots of places warning people. That's literally the whole point of writing reviews. To let others know what places are good, bad, etc. Hopefully more people find out about the stupid treatment of this guy by the resort, as taking legal action against an ex-customer for giving bad reviews is far beyond reasonable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

listenallyall 6y ago
This is opposite of Streisand effect. It's turning out to be terrific free publicity for this island resort with 4.5 stars on Trip Advisor, and actually portrays the resort as victim of a loser guest who was asked to pay a standard corkage fee, refused, then went off and accused the resort of slavery. I mean, just the top image on the Yahoo link, of a gorgeous beachfront, looks pretty great right now. Here's a tip, when you visit, or move to, a foreign country, expect to live by its laws, not the laws of the country you left.
- justinclift 6y ago
  > It's turning out to be terrific free publicity for this island resort ... Let me guess. They've had all of the negative reviews deleted, by threatening to put more people in jail? That's one way to do it...
  - unnameduser1 6y ago
    Are you implying that the resort is suing every customer who gives negative reviews? And if so where is the proof. If not, then it’s just a silly statement made up by you.
    - justinclift 6y ago
      Are you kidding? They took a customer to court after that person had a bad experience and went around telling others about it. Were the contents of the guys reviews all peaches and cream? Heck no. He comes off as a prick (my opinion). But this place, clearly has form in making threats and getting the Thai legal system involved against negative reviewers. How are we to know the resort isn't just making crap up and "abusing the system" to remove negative reviews? That could as easily be the case, and seems more likely.
      - unnameduser1 6y ago
        Your assumptions are just assumptions = not backed by facts. In reality he could be Elvis born again and also to him laws would still apply. If the resort would have made up the comments they say he posted, then they would be in much more legal trouble than he is now. From statements that were posted as screenshots he might be also technically liable for violations of cybercrime act. But that hasn’t been announced or he hasn’t been charged yet for that. From where I’m standing, the guy looks like someone who went overboard to not just complain but incriminate himself. That’s what counts. Honestly, every business has customers that complain. You can’t please everyone. But if someone were to make certain statements about my business, employees etc, I would also use my legal rights to fight abuse. I have myself complained for decades very harshly about other business on social media, their own TW/FB/Google profiles and haven’t been sued by anyone. It would be interesting what the guy can state as his side of the story apart of the incriminating screenshots from online platforms. Edit: typo
      - unnameduser1 6y ago
        Are you for real? Refusing to pay a corkage fee is “bad experience”? His comments are below the belt and inappropriate.
- ratww 6y ago
  I don't know. The only thing I knew about Thailand is that it's a beautiful country. Now that I know about this case, I wouldn't consider setting foot there out of principle... and fear. And as someone who's in this field: this is going to have deep repercussions in the traveling industry and people will definitely rethink how reviews work for Thailand. Some friends from travel-related startups already posted the link in private chat. That was a bad idea both for the hotel and for Thailand's travel industry. Also: Sites like TripAdvisor also don't want to risk having potentially libellous accusations in their reviews, so they would certainly try to work together with the hotel (as they did, since they removed a previous review).
  - listenallyall 6y ago
    Not sure what principles you're standing by, unless you mean the right to be an asshole and accuse a company of slavery. Indeed, Thailand is an amazing, beautiful country, it's nobody's loss but yours if a "Florida-man" type of story will influence your travel plans. On the other hand, if you simply insist on absolute freedom of speech across the entire globe, and can't trust yourself to ever self-censor, then yes I would suggest you stay away, lest you run afoul of Thailand's lese-majeste laws.
leaveyou 6y ago
I think the story in the original link is too one-sided to have a definitive opinion about the customer.. check the second link (from parent comment) for more details and see if it changes anything. https://mothership.sg/2020/09/sea-view-resort-defamation-lawsuit/ https://mothership.sg/2020/09/sea-view-resort-defamation-law...
unnameduser1 6y ago
Justin you don’t seem to have a grasp of the legal system in Thailand. People can write negative reviews. But there is a line which one shouldn’t cross as it becomes illegal. Lots of people write negative reviews and don’t get into legal trouble in Thailand. So hopefully people don’t just assume things based on imagination and get some more facts before judging the case