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> The market is widely regarded as the best way to find exactly these solutions There is no such thing as "the market". There are innumerable markets on Earth.

> The market is widely regarded as the best way to find exactly these solutions There is no such thing as "the market". There are innumerable markets on Earth. Some do a good job at accounting for externalities, while some do a terrible job of it. No market is perfect! >for millions of Americans they decide to spend their hard earned money on a large vehicle because in fact it provides massive utility to them and their family Nobody is disputing that large cars are useful for people who drive them. The claim is that the utility they provide to the driver is massively offset by unaccounted for negative externalities. Road wear, brake dust, and fuel consumption is all higher with heavier vehicles. If those costs were paid by the drivers and owners of heavy vehicles, those people would be more likely to purchase smaller and lighter vehicles. >somehow segregating the bigger ones Why is that not practical? Why should passenger vehicles drive on the same roads that are constantly torn up by heavy trucks? I imagine most people would be pleased to drive on smooth roads with less air pollution.

judge2020 6y ago
> If those costs were paid by the drivers and owners of heavy vehicles, those people would be more likely to purchase smaller and lighter vehicles. Outside of fuel consumption, which indeed is directly paid for by the person who owns the car, It's all paid for by taxpayers, and like any public service some people don't use it as much as others (or at all). Everyone in NYC pays for the subway yet some people own a car and drive it exclusivity. > I imagine most people would be pleased to drive on smooth roads with less air pollution. This largely doesn't matter to most people since cars have very good air filters[0,1]. I also question how much a regular consumer truck actually contributes to road wear compared to the millions of 18 wheelers that weigh over 50,000 pounds. 0: https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-hospital-grade-hepa-air-filters-in-model-s-x-make-a-big-difference-especially-in-situation-during-california-wild-fire https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-hospita... 1: https://www.kbb.com/car-news/will-my-cars-filter-system-help-reduce-the-spread-of-coronavirus/ https://www.kbb.com/car-news/will-my-cars-filter-system-help...
- CameronNemo 6y ago
  Fuel consumption has costs that are not accounted for in the price of the fuel. You ignored the topic of brake dust. I mentioned heavy trucks in my comment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification#Table_of_US_GVWR_classifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification#Table_of_... Light and medium trucks can still contribute to road wear. How much depends on their load level.

judge2020 6y ago

> If those costs were paid by the drivers and owners of heavy vehicles, those people would be more likely to purchase smaller and lighter vehicles. Outside of fuel consumption, which indeed is directly paid for by the person who owns the car, It's all paid for by taxpayers, and like any public service some people don't use it as much as others (or at all). Everyone in NYC pays for the subway yet some people own a car and drive it exclusivity. > I imagine most people would be pleased to drive on smooth roads with less air pollution. This largely doesn't matter to most people since cars have very good air filters[0,1]. I also question how much a regular consumer truck actually contributes to road wear compared to the millions of 18 wheelers that weigh over 50,000 pounds. 0: https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-hospital-grade-hepa-air-filters-in-model-s-x-make-a-big-difference-especially-in-situation-during-california-wild-fire https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-hospita... 1: https://www.kbb.com/car-news/will-my-cars-filter-system-help-reduce-the-spread-of-coronavirus/ https://www.kbb.com/car-news/will-my-cars-filter-system-help...

CameronNemo 6y ago
Fuel consumption has costs that are not accounted for in the price of the fuel. You ignored the topic of brake dust. I mentioned heavy trucks in my comment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification#Table_of_US_GVWR_classifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_classification#Table_of_... Light and medium trucks can still contribute to road wear. How much depends on their load level.