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>So much of what is toxic about cars and car culture could be fixed by downsizing and slowing them I could see myself, my wife, two kids and the mother inlaw i

>So much of what is toxic about cars and car culture could be fixed by downsizing and slowing them I could see myself, my wife, two kids and the mother inlaw in something that small going to Costco. Yeah, that would be awesome....

tjr225 6y ago
Why do you want, let alone need, to do that? Is shopping with your entire family really that fun? Anyway, even if it is, I don’t see why the whole world should suffer so you can get your rocks off at Costco with your nuclear family. For the record; I have a family. I don’t go shopping with them. That sounds like a waste of energy.
- hourislate 6y ago
  I go to help my wife (I enjoy looking around). We take my mother inlaw because she has macular degeneration and can't see that well to drive. The kids like to come for a slice of pizza or a hotdog and we enjoy being with them. I'm sorry that offends you.
  - zaroth 6y ago
    No one should be offended because you enjoy different things in life than they do. Perhaps if they somehow first convince themselves that the “whole world is suffering” because someone has a vehicle which can fit their nuclear family in it, and second convince themselves that condescending you on a message forum is an appropriate way to somehow lessen that behavior... But no, that comment is just out of order. I saw an interesting article today “Joe Rogan World vs NPR World” [1] which describes our current political environment, and it seems to me this type of interaction is emblematic of it. [1] - https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/joe-rogan-world-npr-world-one-country-two-nations/ https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/joe-rogan-wor...
  - Thlom 6y ago
    Sad that your mother in law can't go to Costco on her own because she can't drive anymore.
- tasuki 6y ago
  I also prefer shopping alone - have a list, get in, get it over with asap, and get out. I pity the people who enjoy shopping, although due to us not enjoying it, we're obviously the ones who should be pitied.
- dang 6y ago
  This crosses into personal attack. That's not allowed on HN and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't post like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
Mupuff 6y ago
I never really thought about it, but could online shopping + delivery actually be much more environmentally friendly? i.e rather than having everyone drive do to their own shopping. This is with the assumption that a single delivery truck can hit multiple customers on their route, and in the context of more rural\suburban areas.
- judge2020 6y ago
  I think the problem with that is how many cold foods won't do well outside of the freezer for more than 30 minutes, so any combined delivery would have to be purely opportunistic (eg. The delivery destinations being within a few miles of each other, and ordered/scheduled close enough together as to still meet delivery windows) and/or filtered so that people with cold items get their items first.
  - nmfisher 6y ago
    ...or they could use freezer boxes in the delivery truck, like I get in Singapore?

tjr225 6y ago

Why do you want, let alone need, to do that? Is shopping with your entire family really that fun? Anyway, even if it is, I don’t see why the whole world should suffer so you can get your rocks off at Costco with your nuclear family. For the record; I have a family. I don’t go shopping with them. That sounds like a waste of energy.

hourislate 6y ago
I go to help my wife (I enjoy looking around). We take my mother inlaw because she has macular degeneration and can't see that well to drive. The kids like to come for a slice of pizza or a hotdog and we enjoy being with them. I'm sorry that offends you.
- zaroth 6y ago
  No one should be offended because you enjoy different things in life than they do. Perhaps if they somehow first convince themselves that the “whole world is suffering” because someone has a vehicle which can fit their nuclear family in it, and second convince themselves that condescending you on a message forum is an appropriate way to somehow lessen that behavior... But no, that comment is just out of order. I saw an interesting article today “Joe Rogan World vs NPR World” [1] which describes our current political environment, and it seems to me this type of interaction is emblematic of it. [1] - https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/joe-rogan-world-npr-world-one-country-two-nations/ https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/joe-rogan-wor...
- Thlom 6y ago
  Sad that your mother in law can't go to Costco on her own because she can't drive anymore.
tasuki 6y ago
I also prefer shopping alone - have a list, get in, get it over with asap, and get out. I pity the people who enjoy shopping, although due to us not enjoying it, we're obviously the ones who should be pitied.
dang 6y ago
This crosses into personal attack. That's not allowed on HN and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't post like this. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Mupuff 6y ago

I never really thought about it, but could online shopping + delivery actually be much more environmentally friendly? i.e rather than having everyone drive do to their own shopping. This is with the assumption that a single delivery truck can hit multiple customers on their route, and in the context of more rural\suburban areas.

judge2020 6y ago
I think the problem with that is how many cold foods won't do well outside of the freezer for more than 30 minutes, so any combined delivery would have to be purely opportunistic (eg. The delivery destinations being within a few miles of each other, and ordered/scheduled close enough together as to still meet delivery windows) and/or filtered so that people with cold items get their items first.
- nmfisher 6y ago
  ...or they could use freezer boxes in the delivery truck, like I get in Singapore?