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I hear what you're saying, but I don't actually think speed limits solve the problem. There are parts of the downtown core in my city that have 30kph speed limi

I hear what you're saying, but I don't actually think speed limits solve the problem. There are parts of the downtown core in my city that have 30kph speed limits, but cars regularly drive 60kph anyway. The only effective way to lower the speed of drivers in shared spaces would be electronic speed limiting, or (perhaps simultaneously) a transition to low speed vehicles.

burlesona 6y ago
This is actually not true, the speeding cars are at least equally a street design failure. https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/1/8/new-20-mph-street https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/1/8/new-20-mph-stre...
- kennywinker 6y ago
  Instead of redesigning ALL of our streets to trick drivers to slow down, we could just IDK, slow the cars down? Seems simpler to me tbh.
  - giancarlostoro 6y ago
    And now you either have to convince everyone to change their cars or their engines in their cars. These things will not go over well with those in poverty.
- Igelau 6y ago
  Yeah that "safer street" is still going to get hit at 50 miles an hour by a lot of people.
stefan_ 6y ago
...so lets do that? Your toy drone from Amazon can't fly near an airport, why would your 50k car accelerate past the limit in a city.
- rootusrootus 6y ago
  My 50K car sometimes decides while driving down the freeway that it is in fact on the street next to the freeway, and should be going 25mph. Maybe we should wait a little bit on trying to use bleeding edge technology to force cars to drive a certain way.
  - stefan_ 6y ago
    There is nothing bleeding edge about GPS geo-fences and limiters.
    - jhayward 6y ago
      There certainly is if you're talking about knowing the difference between lanes, or between an elevated section or the surface street below, or any number of other things that affect the speed designation of the roadway.
  - adrianN 6y ago
    It's not hard to make these systems fail in a safe way.
rsynnott 6y ago
Automated speed cameras that issue fines/penalty points based on your number plate? Those are a thing in many countries.
johnofthesea 6y ago
Narrowing the lines also helps.

burlesona 6y ago

This is actually not true, the speeding cars are at least equally a street design failure. https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/1/8/new-20-mph-street https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2019/1/8/new-20-mph-stre...

kennywinker 6y ago
Instead of redesigning ALL of our streets to trick drivers to slow down, we could just IDK, slow the cars down? Seems simpler to me tbh.
- giancarlostoro 6y ago
  And now you either have to convince everyone to change their cars or their engines in their cars. These things will not go over well with those in poverty.
Igelau 6y ago
Yeah that "safer street" is still going to get hit at 50 miles an hour by a lot of people.

stefan_ 6y ago

...so lets do that? Your toy drone from Amazon can't fly near an airport, why would your 50k car accelerate past the limit in a city.

rootusrootus 6y ago
My 50K car sometimes decides while driving down the freeway that it is in fact on the street next to the freeway, and should be going 25mph. Maybe we should wait a little bit on trying to use bleeding edge technology to force cars to drive a certain way.
- stefan_ 6y ago
  There is nothing bleeding edge about GPS geo-fences and limiters.
  - jhayward 6y ago
    There certainly is if you're talking about knowing the difference between lanes, or between an elevated section or the surface street below, or any number of other things that affect the speed designation of the roadway.
- adrianN 6y ago
  It's not hard to make these systems fail in a safe way.

rsynnott 6y ago

Automated speed cameras that issue fines/penalty points based on your number plate? Those are a thing in many countries.

johnofthesea 6y ago

Narrowing the lines also helps.