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Better yet, let's get rid of cars altogether from city streets. This is coming along very nicely... https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/14/21257849/elon-musk-boring

Better yet, let's get rid of cars altogether from city streets. This is coming along very nicely... https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/14/21257849/elon-musk-boring-company-las-vegas-tunnel-finished-digging https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/14/21257849/elon-musk-boring... Autonomous driving is just around the corner, too, which means that there is no need to waste space on parking structures, either. Here's a Tesla engineer that gave a great technical talk demonstrating their progress as of early this year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7BXih7zx8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7BXih7zx8 EDIT: yes, there are clear reasons why having an three-dimensional underground structure will absolutely affect the social dynamics above-ground in a city, yet it remains true that it is possible to banish cars from downtown cores in the near future (i.e., say by 2030 or so), given the present shift to electrification and autonomous driving. These issues are worthy of debate, and I'm just trying to shift the conversation to what's current. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade! I love the goal of city streets for people, as exemplified by the beautiful laneways in Melbourne (11 minutes): https://vimeo.com/131396094 https://vimeo.com/131396094

rootusrootus 6y ago
I'm not going to live long enough to see autonomous cars in the hands of regular people. And I'm not particularly old yet. Electric, I'm with you. We're at 2 out of 3 cars in our household being electric.
xkcd-sucks 6y ago
If underground construction is so easy now, why not move all the people underground and leave the roads in place? It's much easier to build a lot of unconnected spaces vs a network, and being in a highrise is basically the same as being in an underground box
- projektfu 6y ago
  Having lived in both a basement and a high rise, I disagree. The high rise was fabulous with tons of natural light, high above the noise of the city, with pleasant breezes and no risk of flooding. The basement was damp, had no natural light, transmitted all the noises from the street, and was stuffy because air wouldn’t naturally flow.

rootusrootus 6y ago

I'm not going to live long enough to see autonomous cars in the hands of regular people. And I'm not particularly old yet. Electric, I'm with you. We're at 2 out of 3 cars in our household being electric.

xkcd-sucks 6y ago

If underground construction is so easy now, why not move all the people underground and leave the roads in place? It's much easier to build a lot of unconnected spaces vs a network, and being in a highrise is basically the same as being in an underground box

projektfu 6y ago
Having lived in both a basement and a high rise, I disagree. The high rise was fabulous with tons of natural light, high above the noise of the city, with pleasant breezes and no risk of flooding. The basement was damp, had no natural light, transmitted all the noises from the street, and was stuffy because air wouldn’t naturally flow.