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Have you listened to Sgt Pepper recently? Certainly great in its time and groundbreaking, but musically it's not aged that well and its songs are not particular

by npunt 6y ago

Have you listened to Sgt Pepper recently? Certainly great in its time and groundbreaking, but musically it's not aged that well and its songs are not particularly relevant. I say this has a huge Beatles fan who can sing just about every song. What's Going On both is both great musically and has remained completely relevant - its passed the test of time far better.

o0-0o 6y ago
Sgt Pepper is a concept album about a fake band, that has nothing to do with reality or the times. If you look at through that lens you are missing the point entirely.
tptacek 6y ago
Pet Sounds is also the more important of the two seminal rock albums, has aged better, and is actually the best Beach Boys album, as opposed to Sgt. Peppers, which isn't the Beatles best.
- npunt 6y ago
  Agree that Pet Sounds was very influential especially in music production, and has some great tracks. To my ears though it sounds incredibly dated, like a time capsule of sappy 60s teenage pop or music you'd hear on a TV show from the 60s-70s. There's something about the Beach Boys - especially their vocals - that fail to transcend that era. I guess the test for me is what the listening experience is like. Certain musical sounds / conventions / lyrics tend to be rooted in their era, like Beach Boys 'ba- ba ba ba ba-', falsetto harmonies, instruments & production method, etc. Altogether they're pretty distracting make it harder to enjoy the many good parts.
  - kimi 6y ago
    Definitely agree. I tried multiple times to "get" Pet sounds, it's not bad, but the Beatles did run circles around it.
- coldtea 6y ago
  Has aged better? Most don't listen to Sgt. Peppers today, but tons still listen to the Beatles, including younger audiences. How many comparatively listen to the Pet Sounds or the Beach Boys? And how "not dated" it is? It's chock full of late-60s pop sounds and harmonies, which is even more dated than the everything goes/psychedelia/world influences of Sgt. Pepper. The Pet Sounds is mostly something hipsters started to mention around 2000 or so as better than Sergent Pepper to appear "edgier" and "more informed" than those giving the conventional answer.
  - tptacek 6y ago
    The question isn't whether the Beatles or the Beach Boys have aged better. Obviously, the Beatles have. But Pet Sounds has aged better than Sgt. Pepper's, was more influential (it's part of the reason there is a Sgt. Pepper's), and its songs have aged better. Apart from "Lovely Rita", is there are song on Sgt. Pepper's that you'd go back to deliberately today? "Wouldn't It Be Nice", "God Only Knows", "I Know There's An Answer", and even "Sloop John B" --- timeless. Also, "Sloop John B" is the song that runs through my head every time I think about having left a startup. If the question is, what's the better band? The answer is obvious: the Beatles are better than the Beach Boys. And I'd listen to Revolver before I'd listen to either of the two albums we're arguing about. But between those two albums? It has to be Pet Sounds.

by npunt 6y ago

o0-0o 6y ago

Sgt Pepper is a concept album about a fake band, that has nothing to do with reality or the times. If you look at through that lens you are missing the point entirely.

tptacek 6y ago

Pet Sounds is also the more important of the two seminal rock albums, has aged better, and is actually the best Beach Boys album, as opposed to Sgt. Peppers, which isn't the Beatles best.

npunt 6y ago
Agree that Pet Sounds was very influential especially in music production, and has some great tracks. To my ears though it sounds incredibly dated, like a time capsule of sappy 60s teenage pop or music you'd hear on a TV show from the 60s-70s. There's something about the Beach Boys - especially their vocals - that fail to transcend that era. I guess the test for me is what the listening experience is like. Certain musical sounds / conventions / lyrics tend to be rooted in their era, like Beach Boys 'ba- ba ba ba ba-', falsetto harmonies, instruments & production method, etc. Altogether they're pretty distracting make it harder to enjoy the many good parts.
- kimi 6y ago
  Definitely agree. I tried multiple times to "get" Pet sounds, it's not bad, but the Beatles did run circles around it.
coldtea 6y ago
Has aged better? Most don't listen to Sgt. Peppers today, but tons still listen to the Beatles, including younger audiences. How many comparatively listen to the Pet Sounds or the Beach Boys? And how "not dated" it is? It's chock full of late-60s pop sounds and harmonies, which is even more dated than the everything goes/psychedelia/world influences of Sgt. Pepper. The Pet Sounds is mostly something hipsters started to mention around 2000 or so as better than Sergent Pepper to appear "edgier" and "more informed" than those giving the conventional answer.
- tptacek 6y ago
  The question isn't whether the Beatles or the Beach Boys have aged better. Obviously, the Beatles have. But Pet Sounds has aged better than Sgt. Pepper's, was more influential (it's part of the reason there is a Sgt. Pepper's), and its songs have aged better. Apart from "Lovely Rita", is there are song on Sgt. Pepper's that you'd go back to deliberately today? "Wouldn't It Be Nice", "God Only Knows", "I Know There's An Answer", and even "Sloop John B" --- timeless. Also, "Sloop John B" is the song that runs through my head every time I think about having left a startup. If the question is, what's the better band? The answer is obvious: the Beatles are better than the Beach Boys. And I'd listen to Revolver before I'd listen to either of the two albums we're arguing about. But between those two albums? It has to be Pet Sounds.