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Further releasing about this, posted earlier in the week on HN. https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2020-09-22/guardian-silent-assange-trial/ https://www.jonatha

Further releasing about this, posted earlier in the week on HN. https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2020-09-22/guardian-silent-assange-trial/ https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2020-09-22/guardian-silen...

singron 6y ago
This reminds me of Particularism[0]. Instead of applying consistent moral principles to this case to determine right or wrong, they have already decided that this particular case is wrong and are figuring out what moral principles they can come up with to make it wrong. 0: https://iep.utm.edu/morlpat/ https://iep.utm.edu/morlpat/
- MrsPeaches 6y ago
  Which in turn reminds me of the (apocryphal) quote from Óscar Benavides, former president of Peru: "For my friends everything, for my enemies the law" [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93scar_R._Benavides https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93scar_R._Benavides
- jonplackett 6y ago
  They do a similar thing to this with hackers in general. The various computer misuse acts essentially criminalise so many things we all do all the time - like if go to a coffee shop and put in fake info into the wifi sign up form, technically it's illegal but obviously something they'll never bother to enforce - unless they want to for some other reason. As soon as you start applying the law (or not) on a whim, you're in trouble.
Wistar 6y ago
Yes. The Cook Guardian piece did a great job of making me understand the weaselly underpinnings of this case.
- jonplackett 6y ago
  Do you have a link to that? It's good the guardian are finally saying something about it - even if too quietly.
  - Wistar 6y ago
    I think that this was the article I was referencing. I apologize for not linking it with my comment. https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2020-09-22/guardian-silent-assange-trial/ https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2020-09-22/guardian-silen...
    - jonplackett 6y ago
      Ah I misunderstood - I thought the Guardian had changed tack and published an article by Cook, rather than him just writing about how they had not said anything. I got my hopes up for a minute that they'd grown a pair.

singron 6y ago

This reminds me of Particularism[0]. Instead of applying consistent moral principles to this case to determine right or wrong, they have already decided that this particular case is wrong and are figuring out what moral principles they can come up with to make it wrong. 0: https://iep.utm.edu/morlpat/ https://iep.utm.edu/morlpat/

MrsPeaches 6y ago
Which in turn reminds me of the (apocryphal) quote from Óscar Benavides, former president of Peru: "For my friends everything, for my enemies the law" [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93scar_R._Benavides https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93scar_R._Benavides
jonplackett 6y ago
They do a similar thing to this with hackers in general. The various computer misuse acts essentially criminalise so many things we all do all the time - like if go to a coffee shop and put in fake info into the wifi sign up form, technically it's illegal but obviously something they'll never bother to enforce - unless they want to for some other reason. As soon as you start applying the law (or not) on a whim, you're in trouble.

Wistar 6y ago

Yes. The Cook Guardian piece did a great job of making me understand the weaselly underpinnings of this case.

jonplackett 6y ago
Do you have a link to that? It's good the guardian are finally saying something about it - even if too quietly.
- Wistar 6y ago
  I think that this was the article I was referencing. I apologize for not linking it with my comment. https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2020-09-22/guardian-silent-assange-trial/ https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2020-09-22/guardian-silen...
  - jonplackett 6y ago
    Ah I misunderstood - I thought the Guardian had changed tack and published an article by Cook, rather than him just writing about how they had not said anything. I got my hopes up for a minute that they'd grown a pair.