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The people traveling abroad currently are mostly absolute idiots. Exactly the kind that will break mandatory isolation and are way more likely to have an ongoi

The people traveling abroad currently are mostly absolute idiots. Exactly the kind that will break mandatory isolation and are way more likely to have an ongoing covid infection than a random person from the general population, due to overall careless behaviour. The sensible people are all waiting in their homes. So yes, I guess the border guard you spoke to has had to endure tantrums from these people on a daily basis

vertis 6y ago
It's my impression that Europe has been a little bit more relaxed than "only idiots are traveling". It's only now that the numbers are rising again that they're again putting increased measures in place.
- dgellow 6y ago
  Yes, it's correct, it was possible to travel between EU countries during the whole summer without that much restrictions (some places required a quarantine of 14 days, but others didn't). The number of identified cases only started to rise again in central Europe around mid August.
BrandoElFollito 6y ago
Why do you think there is a magical virus barrier at the border? It does not matter if you travel to the next city or to the country nearby. Yes, there are clusters but at least in Europe we do not have vast empty areas between populated places. It is pretty much a continuum.
- user_501238901 6y ago
  Travel creates new unidentified clusters, the tourists also tend to leave the area rather quickly => very hard to find and trace who originally caused the cluster, and who were in contact. Tourists also tend to have much different riskier behaviour compared to the average native inhabitant of a city (eg nightclub hopping many days in a row)
- nicoburns 6y ago
  If you're travelling a short distance over a mostly open land border then sure. If you're flying somewhere then it's a different story.
- TeMPOraL 6y ago
  There isn't a magical virus barrier at the border. But there's a jurisdictional barrier there. Contact tracing across the border is much more painful than doing it locally. Our civilization-level immune system is bureaucratic in nature, so you can say that national border is a barrier for its antibodies.

vertis 6y ago

It's my impression that Europe has been a little bit more relaxed than "only idiots are traveling". It's only now that the numbers are rising again that they're again putting increased measures in place.

dgellow 6y ago
Yes, it's correct, it was possible to travel between EU countries during the whole summer without that much restrictions (some places required a quarantine of 14 days, but others didn't). The number of identified cases only started to rise again in central Europe around mid August.

BrandoElFollito 6y ago

Why do you think there is a magical virus barrier at the border? It does not matter if you travel to the next city or to the country nearby. Yes, there are clusters but at least in Europe we do not have vast empty areas between populated places. It is pretty much a continuum.

user_501238901 6y ago
Travel creates new unidentified clusters, the tourists also tend to leave the area rather quickly => very hard to find and trace who originally caused the cluster, and who were in contact. Tourists also tend to have much different riskier behaviour compared to the average native inhabitant of a city (eg nightclub hopping many days in a row)
nicoburns 6y ago
If you're travelling a short distance over a mostly open land border then sure. If you're flying somewhere then it's a different story.
TeMPOraL 6y ago
There isn't a magical virus barrier at the border. But there's a jurisdictional barrier there. Contact tracing across the border is much more painful than doing it locally. Our civilization-level immune system is bureaucratic in nature, so you can say that national border is a barrier for its antibodies.