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That worked well for the flight control software of the 737-MAX

by tibbydudeza 6y ago

thewarrior 6y ago
It was not outsourced.
- tibbydudeza 6y ago
  https://www.quora.com/Did-Boeing-outsource-their-flight-control-software-on-737-MAX-8-to-India https://www.quora.com/Did-Boeing-outsource-their-flight-cont... https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-setting-up-new-in-house-unit-to-build-avionics-controls/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein...
  - thackerway8 6y ago
    The Seattle Times article doesn't mention India. Only some random person on Quora claims the subcontractor was Indian.
    - donedealomg 6y ago
      The most shitty code in the world comes from India. This is my personal professional experience after 25+ years in the job. People are just speaking out of experience. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/95-engineers-in-india-unfit-for-software-development-jobs-report/articleshow/58278004.cms?from=mdr https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/95-engineers-... 95% engineers in India unfit for software development jobs: study
  - salawat 6y ago
    The flight control software wasn't worked on by the infamous $9 an hour engineers. That was the multi-function display, on which one could only actually get as far as possibly contributing to not displaying the AoA disagree warning if I recall correctly. What it does demonstrate, however, is Management's ruthless devotion to chasing the bottom dollar. What further probing may have been done by someone more deeply invested and dedicated to the task? I don't at all blame someone only getting $9 dollars an hour for "Yes-manning" it. I do, however, blame the exec woefully ignorant of the environment and effect on overall culture that has. When you start engineering for the sake of financials like that, you intentionally invite writing checks your work culture can't cash down the road. My two cents.
tzs 6y ago
Most of what I've seen says that the problems with the 737 MAX flight control software were were with the specification, not the implementation. The coders, wherever they were, implemented correctly what the specification said they were to implement.

That worked well for the flight control software of the 737-MAX

thewarrior 6y ago

It was not outsourced.

tibbydudeza 6y ago
https://www.quora.com/Did-Boeing-outsource-their-flight-control-software-on-737-MAX-8-to-India https://www.quora.com/Did-Boeing-outsource-their-flight-cont... https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boeing-setting-up-new-in-house-unit-to-build-avionics-controls/ https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/boein...
- thackerway8 6y ago
  The Seattle Times article doesn't mention India. Only some random person on Quora claims the subcontractor was Indian.
  - donedealomg 6y ago
    The most shitty code in the world comes from India. This is my personal professional experience after 25+ years in the job. People are just speaking out of experience. https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/95-engineers-in-india-unfit-for-software-development-jobs-report/articleshow/58278004.cms?from=mdr https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/ites/95-engineers-... 95% engineers in India unfit for software development jobs: study
- salawat 6y ago
  The flight control software wasn't worked on by the infamous $9 an hour engineers. That was the multi-function display, on which one could only actually get as far as possibly contributing to not displaying the AoA disagree warning if I recall correctly. What it does demonstrate, however, is Management's ruthless devotion to chasing the bottom dollar. What further probing may have been done by someone more deeply invested and dedicated to the task? I don't at all blame someone only getting $9 dollars an hour for "Yes-manning" it. I do, however, blame the exec woefully ignorant of the environment and effect on overall culture that has. When you start engineering for the sake of financials like that, you intentionally invite writing checks your work culture can't cash down the road. My two cents.

tzs 6y ago

Most of what I've seen says that the problems with the 737 MAX flight control software were were with the specification, not the implementation. The coders, wherever they were, implemented correctly what the specification said they were to implement.