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Apparently bleating about Tik Tok is all this government can do to try and hide the fact that it’s been bleating about Tik Tok for months and not achieved anyth

Apparently bleating about Tik Tok is all this government can do to try and hide the fact that it’s been bleating about Tik Tok for months and not achieved anything besides having increased the deficit with China to record numbers while still paying Midwest farmers tens of billions for that privilege. It’s also failed to actually do anything about Tik Tok for months despite having committed some blatantly illegal acts that have reduced the government to little more than a PRC style ruling party. I guess actually solving the stated Tik Tok problem would prevent the daily headlines that are distracting from those same record deficits.

ericmay 6y ago
It looks more and more like a negotiation battle. Trump can ban it within an hour for the most part but hasn’t. If you didn’t think this was true, all you had to do was watch college football on Saturday and see the numerous TikTok “download before Sunday” ads.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  A judge put a stop to the ban.
  - ericmay 6y ago
    The judge gave the illusion of actually stopping the ban. It's for show. Do you really think that Trump was like, hey I'm going to ban this TikTok app due to national security reasons and then a judge in California was like no you can't do that and he just sat on his hands about it? There's way more going on behind the scenes here than is apparent. Trump could within the hour, literally within the hour, ban TikTok and nobody could really do much until/unless Congress decided to do something about it. Unfortunately, in America we've given the president too much power under the guise of national security. For that I blame Congress, of course, because whenever their team is in power they conveniently forget about restricting presidential authority. With that being said, I do want to see Chinese social media companies banned from the US until/unless US companies can operate in China freely. There just isn't really a reason to let them operate here.
    - aaomidi 6y ago
      Yes the decision is being appealed.
      - ericmay 6y ago
        Right, it’s for show. There is no disadvantage to letting this run its course through the court system, and then when you don’t like the outcome you just say well “national security” and ban it.
stjohnswarts 6y ago
I do wish they would show us some examples. I would not be hard to convince that CCP would like to brainwash Gen Z into being sympathizers. Some of the interviews I've see with protestors who don't have a clue about the real roots of what they're protesting for has me a bit skeptical of some of the white protestors for BLM. The black youth seem to be much more informed on what they're protesting for. A lot of the white kids just seem to be angry at the world.
- echelon 6y ago
  TikTok is filled to the brim with hate and, from my perspective, anti-American rhetoric. My partner uses it and shows me a lot of these things. "All buildings matter" trended on 9/11, and yesterday there was a large group of young, voting-aged adults joining a pact to not vote. I'm disheartened by a lot of the stuff I'm seeing on TikTok. Then again, I have the same reaction to Twitter. If China can tweak the knobs and radicalize our youth, then this is extremely dangerous. I think it's impossible to say whether or not this is just emergent network behavior or if it's selectively being curated. If the administration had evidence, though, I think they'd be talking about it. Edit: the repeated downvotes for saying anything about China don't give me confidence. Why not offer a rebuttal instead? I haven't said anything controversial. Edit 2: Flagged too, huh? Is having an open and frank discussion dangerous? I'm an earnest contributor acting in good faith. This isn't the right way to go about things.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  You can't expect only the oppressed to fight for their own freedom. A lot of white people also recognize what a fucked system we've created for people. Centuries of injustice. The reactionary identity politics is extremely harmful. As a PoC I'm happy to have non PoC allies in this fight. I welcome them. And will make this fight our fight.

ericmay 6y ago

It looks more and more like a negotiation battle. Trump can ban it within an hour for the most part but hasn’t. If you didn’t think this was true, all you had to do was watch college football on Saturday and see the numerous TikTok “download before Sunday” ads.

aaomidi 6y ago
A judge put a stop to the ban.
- ericmay 6y ago
  The judge gave the illusion of actually stopping the ban. It's for show. Do you really think that Trump was like, hey I'm going to ban this TikTok app due to national security reasons and then a judge in California was like no you can't do that and he just sat on his hands about it? There's way more going on behind the scenes here than is apparent. Trump could within the hour, literally within the hour, ban TikTok and nobody could really do much until/unless Congress decided to do something about it. Unfortunately, in America we've given the president too much power under the guise of national security. For that I blame Congress, of course, because whenever their team is in power they conveniently forget about restricting presidential authority. With that being said, I do want to see Chinese social media companies banned from the US until/unless US companies can operate in China freely. There just isn't really a reason to let them operate here.
  - aaomidi 6y ago
    Yes the decision is being appealed.
    - ericmay 6y ago
      Right, it’s for show. There is no disadvantage to letting this run its course through the court system, and then when you don’t like the outcome you just say well “national security” and ban it.

stjohnswarts 6y ago

I do wish they would show us some examples. I would not be hard to convince that CCP would like to brainwash Gen Z into being sympathizers. Some of the interviews I've see with protestors who don't have a clue about the real roots of what they're protesting for has me a bit skeptical of some of the white protestors for BLM. The black youth seem to be much more informed on what they're protesting for. A lot of the white kids just seem to be angry at the world.

echelon 6y ago
TikTok is filled to the brim with hate and, from my perspective, anti-American rhetoric. My partner uses it and shows me a lot of these things. "All buildings matter" trended on 9/11, and yesterday there was a large group of young, voting-aged adults joining a pact to not vote. I'm disheartened by a lot of the stuff I'm seeing on TikTok. Then again, I have the same reaction to Twitter. If China can tweak the knobs and radicalize our youth, then this is extremely dangerous. I think it's impossible to say whether or not this is just emergent network behavior or if it's selectively being curated. If the administration had evidence, though, I think they'd be talking about it. Edit: the repeated downvotes for saying anything about China don't give me confidence. Why not offer a rebuttal instead? I haven't said anything controversial. Edit 2: Flagged too, huh? Is having an open and frank discussion dangerous? I'm an earnest contributor acting in good faith. This isn't the right way to go about things.
aaomidi 6y ago
You can't expect only the oppressed to fight for their own freedom. A lot of white people also recognize what a fucked system we've created for people. Centuries of injustice. The reactionary identity politics is extremely harmful. As a PoC I'm happy to have non PoC allies in this fight. I welcome them. And will make this fight our fight.