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Not a WP fan (although I've built large scale sites professionally) but the arguments regarding the frontend are kinda BS. What does Gutenberg have to do with t

Not a WP fan (although I've built large scale sites professionally) but the arguments regarding the frontend are kinda BS. What does Gutenberg have to do with the entire frontend layout? Gutenberg can still be used just for the main content region, not surrounding blocks. Not really a "talented" team after all. Plus, UK dev companies tend to be biased towards Craft these days cause (guess why) it's also UK based. I also wonder how they got Statamic in the list (probably to dilute the argument for the need for a commercial CMS) and not the 2nd largest CMS in the world (Joomla). All in all a pointless marketing article.

brylie 6y ago
I started my web development career with Joomla, around 2008. At that time it seemed somewhat convoluted -- having arbitrary levels of hierarchy to define a basic content model and redundant concepts for extending core functionality (i.e. what WordPress calls plugins and Drupal calls modules). Has Joomla managed to simplify it's architecture in the past 12-or-so years? Also, open-source CMSs are lacking for non-proprietary drag-and-drop layout builders (such as can be seen in Wix). Does Joomla have core or a fully open-source extension for drag-and-drop page building?
- fevangelou 6y ago
  Joomla has several d'n'd content builders nowadays. As for the separation of types of extensions, that's actually a good thing for many practical reasons. In the end, it depends on what you're building...
3stripe 6y ago
Just to correct one of your points: Craft was created by Pixel & Tonic who are a US company, not UK based.
- fevangelou 6y ago
  Indeed, mea culpa.
tweetle_beetle 6y ago
> Plus, UK dev companies tend to be biased towards Craft these days... This seems a tad hyperbolic surely? For every Craft CMS site built in the UK, my guess is that there are 200+ WordPress sites built. Is there a particular niche that you are seeing this trend in - enterprise sites?
- fevangelou 6y ago
  My mistake on its origin. Indeed though it's used on some high profile (albeit not high traffic) sites by well known UK agencies.

brylie 6y ago

I started my web development career with Joomla, around 2008. At that time it seemed somewhat convoluted -- having arbitrary levels of hierarchy to define a basic content model and redundant concepts for extending core functionality (i.e. what WordPress calls plugins and Drupal calls modules). Has Joomla managed to simplify it's architecture in the past 12-or-so years? Also, open-source CMSs are lacking for non-proprietary drag-and-drop layout builders (such as can be seen in Wix). Does Joomla have core or a fully open-source extension for drag-and-drop page building?

fevangelou 6y ago
Joomla has several d'n'd content builders nowadays. As for the separation of types of extensions, that's actually a good thing for many practical reasons. In the end, it depends on what you're building...

3stripe 6y ago

Just to correct one of your points: Craft was created by Pixel & Tonic who are a US company, not UK based.

fevangelou 6y ago
Indeed, mea culpa.

tweetle_beetle 6y ago

> Plus, UK dev companies tend to be biased towards Craft these days... This seems a tad hyperbolic surely? For every Craft CMS site built in the UK, my guess is that there are 200+ WordPress sites built. Is there a particular niche that you are seeing this trend in - enterprise sites?

fevangelou 6y ago
My mistake on its origin. Indeed though it's used on some high profile (albeit not high traffic) sites by well known UK agencies.