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After you've interviewed. Here's the text (from https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=432.3&lawCode=LAB https://leginfo
by bruckie 6y ago
After you've interviewed. Here's the text (from https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=432.3&lawCode=LAB https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...):
"432.3.
(a) An employer shall not rely on the salary history information of an applicant for employment as a factor in determining whether to offer employment to an applicant or what salary to offer an applicant.
(b) An employer shall not, orally or in writing, personally or through an agent, seek salary history information, including compensation and benefits, about an applicant for employment.
(c) An employer, upon reasonable request, shall provide the pay scale for a position to an applicant applying for employment. For purposes of this section, “pay scale” means a salary or hourly wage range. For purposes of this section “reasonable request” means a request made after an applicant has completed an initial interview with the employer."
- srtjstjsj 6y agoWhy haven't all the big company pay scales leaked yet?
- fractionalhare 6y agoI have good news for you: https://levels.fyi https://levels.fyi :)
- MertsA 6y agoA better question might be, why doesn't levels.fyi include the actual pay bands that companies have to disclose upon request to candidates instead of just reported compensation?
- Zaheer 6y agoCompanies only have to disclose base salary. 30-50%+ of tech compensation is through equity, etc.
- joshuamorton 6y agoA few reasons (I say this as someone who generally speaking knows my company's pay scale because of well organized compensation transparency): 1. People aren't encouraged to share this information, there's no obvious place to do it. 2. The value of doing so is minimal 3. People are bad at it. It's difficult enough getting people to share the information correctly when you work at the company and can give them screenshots of what numbers to copy. Without that it's even harder. (Granted much of this is only hard if you're doing multiple roles and currencies) 4. The numbers that the companies share often aren't the entire scale. For example, as far as I know [disclaimers: not a lawyer, this is from indirect experience], if Google hires you as a new grad L3, you aren't given the L3 scale. You're given one number. They don't negotiate on this number. Because while you're hired into an L3 position, you're being hired as a new grad, which is a different pipeline with different comp and rules. I expect other companies are somewhat similar. 5. Salary is one, and only a small, part of compensation, and the law only requires you to share salary. Salary is also usually the most difficult part of the package to negotiate. 6. A lot of the information is public, if you know where to look (levels.fyi, /r/cscareerquestions salary surveys, etc.
- etothepii 6y agoWe are encouraging people to share this information by guessing the salaries of your LinkedIn connections at PeerWyse.com, we then aggregate the guesses into ranges of individuals you know so you can compare yourself usefully to actual people you know something about.
- pnutjam 6y agoPay scale is great, but at least in the US, benefits cost can be a significant difference. I've seen offers 15% higher completely wiped out by a difference in benefits cost. It makes negotiating very difficult. Often the hiring manager or HR people have no idea what the costs are, because they are single and you are looking at the "family" benefit costs. I'd love to see some sort of database showing benefit costs at different companies. The information is out there, it's just hidden. It's often a paint to get clear costs during the interview process. God forbid you're negotiating near the end of the year, because the costs change every year.
- etothepii 6y agoI have even better news for you, peerwyse.com. See the salaries of your LinkedIn connections, and build peer groups of people with the same skills or job title as you.