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This is amazing. I already wrote this to another comment, but quoting myself: > Is this a USA vs the rest thing? I've worked in many startups in the US and al

This is amazing. I already wrote this to another comment, but quoting myself: > Is this a USA vs the rest thing? I've worked in many startups in the US and almost everyone uses emacs. Last few years, VSCode has been getting popular though. I had a similar experience when I was a student in UC Berkeley, although it seems like there were more vim users in school than in industry. Anyway, pretty much all my current coworkers use Emacs and I work in Boston, MA. > Personally: I cannot imagine programming without emacs, to me programming is so strongly associated with emacs... > Of course, I also understand that it's all personal preference. I don't know if there is a way to prove that I'm lying. :)

oblio 6y ago
Isn't Boston where MIT is and where Stallman lives? Also, Berkeley as in BSD. You're probably living in a smaller bubble than mine :-)
rxhernandez 6y ago
I've worked in California all my life and have worked in the following industries: medical devices, scientific devices, blockchain, and plasma physics research. I am the only person I've seen use emacs. Almost every developer I've worked with either used VS Code, Visual Studio, or uVision. Everyone else used Sublime Text, Eclipse or a JetBrains IDE. I haven't even used emacs in years so I don't even know anyone that uses it; I stick almost exclusively to Vim (and for 8 months this was my only "IDE"), PyCharm, and WebStorm.
- addicted 6y ago
  I mean, just go on YouTube and start clicking around in random presentations at programmer conferences. Unless it’s an emacs related conference you will rarely see emacs being used as an editor. You will see a few VIM users sprinkled around. But if it’s a recent conference the vast majority are gonna be VSCode users.
turing_complete 6y ago
I am using Vim. Is it worth it to try emacs?
- quanticle 6y ago
  If you're happy with vim, stick with it. In general, when it comes to editors, you're better off trying to get really good at the editors you already know than being mediocre at using a bunch of different editors.
- mkesper 6y ago
  Try doom-emacs, consequently evil-mode and highly adaptable. https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs
- alkyon 6y ago
  I used to use Vim, but switched to Spacemacs and never looked back. I highly recommend it as it gives you Vim bindings with all Emacs possibilities.
- fennecfoxen 6y ago
  Here's what I do in emacs that makes me like it better than vim. If you want to do things like this, you should consider Emacs. If not, you are likely better served by Vim. - I write software with unit tests. I have a custom method bound to Shift-F5 that computes the test file associated with the current code file, and switches to the buffer. - I have a similar method bound to F5 that runs the tests for the current file (code file or test file). Ctrl-F5 to run the previous test again even if you're in a different buffer. - These are configured for multiple programming languages, testrunners, and different conventions within specific programming languages, in different parts of the codebase. - Test output goes to a first-class buffer, like any other file I'm working on. If I want to do something like `git blame` the file I'm working in, it's also a first-class buffer. Want to run a shell? `tail -f` some logs? All in first-class buffers. - Why does it matter that things end up in first class buffers? Well, there's lots of random goodies like `meta-x json-pretty-print-region`, so if your execution dumps a blob of unformatted JSON or whatever, you can manipulate it readily. (Tab complete is available on these commands.) - Autoformat your code automatically with a save hook. Autoformat it on your own schedule by calling something like `m-x blacken-buffer`. I don't think vi does as good a job of manipulating the contents of your file with internal and external programs. - undo-tree-visualize.
how_gauche 6y ago
Huge skew depending on what platforms you like to work on. Java or Windows people are significantly less likely to use trad Unix tools. Backend or Linux people, it's 30/30/* in my experience between vim/Emacs/everything else -- this was certainly the case at Google when I was there.

oblio 6y ago

Isn't Boston where MIT is and where Stallman lives? Also, Berkeley as in BSD. You're probably living in a smaller bubble than mine :-)

rxhernandez 6y ago

I've worked in California all my life and have worked in the following industries: medical devices, scientific devices, blockchain, and plasma physics research. I am the only person I've seen use emacs. Almost every developer I've worked with either used VS Code, Visual Studio, or uVision. Everyone else used Sublime Text, Eclipse or a JetBrains IDE. I haven't even used emacs in years so I don't even know anyone that uses it; I stick almost exclusively to Vim (and for 8 months this was my only "IDE"), PyCharm, and WebStorm.

addicted 6y ago
I mean, just go on YouTube and start clicking around in random presentations at programmer conferences. Unless it’s an emacs related conference you will rarely see emacs being used as an editor. You will see a few VIM users sprinkled around. But if it’s a recent conference the vast majority are gonna be VSCode users.

turing_complete 6y ago

I am using Vim. Is it worth it to try emacs?

quanticle 6y ago
If you're happy with vim, stick with it. In general, when it comes to editors, you're better off trying to get really good at the editors you already know than being mediocre at using a bunch of different editors.
mkesper 6y ago
Try doom-emacs, consequently evil-mode and highly adaptable. https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs
alkyon 6y ago
I used to use Vim, but switched to Spacemacs and never looked back. I highly recommend it as it gives you Vim bindings with all Emacs possibilities.
fennecfoxen 6y ago
Here's what I do in emacs that makes me like it better than vim. If you want to do things like this, you should consider Emacs. If not, you are likely better served by Vim. - I write software with unit tests. I have a custom method bound to Shift-F5 that computes the test file associated with the current code file, and switches to the buffer. - I have a similar method bound to F5 that runs the tests for the current file (code file or test file). Ctrl-F5 to run the previous test again even if you're in a different buffer. - These are configured for multiple programming languages, testrunners, and different conventions within specific programming languages, in different parts of the codebase. - Test output goes to a first-class buffer, like any other file I'm working on. If I want to do something like `git blame` the file I'm working in, it's also a first-class buffer. Want to run a shell? `tail -f` some logs? All in first-class buffers. - Why does it matter that things end up in first class buffers? Well, there's lots of random goodies like `meta-x json-pretty-print-region`, so if your execution dumps a blob of unformatted JSON or whatever, you can manipulate it readily. (Tab complete is available on these commands.) - Autoformat your code automatically with a save hook. Autoformat it on your own schedule by calling something like `m-x blacken-buffer`. I don't think vi does as good a job of manipulating the contents of your file with internal and external programs. - undo-tree-visualize.

how_gauche 6y ago

Huge skew depending on what platforms you like to work on. Java or Windows people are significantly less likely to use trad Unix tools. Backend or Linux people, it's 30/30/* in my experience between vim/Emacs/everything else -- this was certainly the case at Google when I was there.