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> Isn't that a text book definition of a coup? Yes, also completely made up. Trump talks a lot, often times incoherently and faster than he thinks. This is no

by DenisM 6y ago

> Isn't that a text book definition of a coup? Yes, also completely made up. Trump talks a lot, often times incoherently and faster than he thinks. This is not the greatest quality in a president, but also not the worst.

slg 6y ago
The New York Times is stating "senior leaders at the Pentagon, speaking on the condition of anonymity, acknowledged that they were talking among themselves about what to do if Mr. Trump, who will still be president from Election Day to Inauguration Day, invokes the Insurrection Act and tries to send troops into the streets". This is only "completely made up" in the sense that every hypothetical the military prepares for is a made up scenario.
- DenisM 6y ago
  > every hypothetical the military prepares for is a made up scenario Trump is within his authority to send the troops into the streets to quell an insurrection against constitutional order. This being an unusual situation naturally the generals should be getting prepared. Where's the coup?
  - slg 6y ago
    We aren't talking about an insurrection against constitutional order. The hypothetical is that Trump loses the election, he cites some bogus case of fraud like he has spent the last several months building, he refuses to concede just like he said he wouldn't concede if their was fraud, large protests pop up in response to these moves as would obviously happen, Trump declares them riots just like he has been calling the largely peaceful protests of the last several months riots, and he orders in the troops to squash dissent just like he said he would when he refused to agree to a peaceful transfer of power. All of this is based off Trumps own words and prior behavior. It isn't the most likely scenario, but it can't be completely dismissed. It is a situation that the other branches of government and the military need to seriously consider.
    - DenisM 6y ago
      > All of this is based off Trumps own words and prior behavior. Which behavior is that? >he refuses to concede This is not supported by the NYT quote re Pentagon officials you have provided. Do you have a quote where Pentagon officials discuss actions in case of Trump's failure to concede?
      - slg 6y ago
        Are you just being willfully obtuse? The words and behaviors that I described in the previous comment. I give up trying to explain this to you. Congrats, you win the debate through sheer exhaustion.

by DenisM 6y ago

slg 6y ago

The New York Times is stating "senior leaders at the Pentagon, speaking on the condition of anonymity, acknowledged that they were talking among themselves about what to do if Mr. Trump, who will still be president from Election Day to Inauguration Day, invokes the Insurrection Act and tries to send troops into the streets". This is only "completely made up" in the sense that every hypothetical the military prepares for is a made up scenario.

DenisM 6y ago
> every hypothetical the military prepares for is a made up scenario Trump is within his authority to send the troops into the streets to quell an insurrection against constitutional order. This being an unusual situation naturally the generals should be getting prepared. Where's the coup?
- slg 6y ago
  We aren't talking about an insurrection against constitutional order. The hypothetical is that Trump loses the election, he cites some bogus case of fraud like he has spent the last several months building, he refuses to concede just like he said he wouldn't concede if their was fraud, large protests pop up in response to these moves as would obviously happen, Trump declares them riots just like he has been calling the largely peaceful protests of the last several months riots, and he orders in the troops to squash dissent just like he said he would when he refused to agree to a peaceful transfer of power. All of this is based off Trumps own words and prior behavior. It isn't the most likely scenario, but it can't be completely dismissed. It is a situation that the other branches of government and the military need to seriously consider.
  - DenisM 6y ago
    > All of this is based off Trumps own words and prior behavior. Which behavior is that? >he refuses to concede This is not supported by the NYT quote re Pentagon officials you have provided. Do you have a quote where Pentagon officials discuss actions in case of Trump's failure to concede?
    - slg 6y ago
      Are you just being willfully obtuse? The words and behaviors that I described in the previous comment. I give up trying to explain this to you. Congrats, you win the debate through sheer exhaustion.