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I haven't read other responses yet, but let me be among those to point out: this is only tangentially about Taiwan. To have an informed discussion on the subje

by zsz 6y ago

I haven't read other responses yet, but let me be among those to point out: this is only tangentially about Taiwan. To have an informed discussion on the subject, please be aware of at least the following: First and foremost, let's dispense with the obvious: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Huawei https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Huawei Particularly for those not from Australia/NZ: https://www.afr.com/world/asia/five-dangerous-myths-in-australia-s-relations-with-china-20200911-p55umy https://www.afr.com/world/asia/five-dangerous-myths-in-austr... https://www.wsj.com/articles/spooked-by-china-australias-spies-pursue-new-bonds-11575290549 https://www.wsj.com/articles/spooked-by-china-australias-spi... https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australasia/article/3038873/china-wants-take-over-australian-politics-former-spy-chief https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/australasia/article/3038873/c... https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/08/29/fore-a29.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/08/29/fore-a29.html https://www.wsj.com/articles/australian-probe-of-possible-interference-fueled-tensions-with-china-11600449478 https://www.wsj.com/articles/australian-probe-of-possible-in... https://martinsvillebulletin.com/news/world/australian-lawmakers-adviser-challenges-interference-law/article_c7f71658-1a76-517a-b60d-634bb91446cc.html https://martinsvillebulletin.com/news/world/australian-lawma... "The [foreign interference] laws angered China and stoked increasing tensions between the nations." https://thediplomat.com/tag/china-interference-in-australian-politics/ https://thediplomat.com/tag/china-interference-in-australian... https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-australia-espionage-asio/australia-probes-deeply-disturbing-allegations-of-chinese-political-interference-idUSKBN1XY0P9 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-australia-espionage... https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Fear-of-China-s-election-meddling-triggers-reforms-across-Pacific https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Fea... In addition: https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-caught-meddling-past-two-us-elections-claims-not-interested-2020-vote https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-caught-meddl... https://www.chinabusinessreview.com/fact-sheet-communist-party-groups-in-foreign-companies-in-china/ https://www.chinabusinessreview.com/fact-sheet-communist-par... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-19529867 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-19529867 China Daily (link below) is known to have ties to the CCP: http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201909/02/WS5d6c719ea310cf3e355691bf_1.html http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201909/02/WS5d6c719ea310cf... "Editor's note: This is the first of two stories in which China Daily will examine educational issues that experts say are a root cause of young people's participation in the Hong Kong protests." And https://www.chinadailyhk.com/articles/49/20/205/1567477484537.html https://www.chinadailyhk.com/articles/49/20/205/156747748453... "Editor's note: This is the second of two stories in which China Daily examines educational issues that experts see as a root cause of young people's participation in the Hong Kong protests." Then: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3035913/beijing-reiterates-call-hong-kong-prioritise-national-security https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3035913/be... ("Beijing reiterates call for Hong Kong to prioritise national security, patriotic education") Finally, for in depth discussions: https://jamestown.org/program/xi-jinping-steers-china-back-days-mao-zedong/ https://jamestown.org/program/xi-jinping-steers-china-back-d... https://jamestown.org/program/putting-money-in-the-partys-mouth-how-china-mobilizes-funding-for-united-front-work/ https://jamestown.org/program/putting-money-in-the-partys-mo... https://jamestown.org/program/the-china-u-s-exchange-foundation-and-united-front-lobbying-laundering-in-american-politics/ https://jamestown.org/program/the-china-u-s-exchange-foundat... https://sinopsis.cz/en/new-zealand-united-frontlings-bearing-gifts/ https://sinopsis.cz/en/new-zealand-united-frontlings-bearing... https://jamestown.org/program/united-front-work-by-other-means-chinas-economic-diplomacy-in-central-and-eastern-europe/ https://jamestown.org/program/united-front-work-by-other-mea... https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/25/huawei-xinjiang-and-chinas-high-tech-surveillance-state-joining-the-dots/#2bec3691cd52 https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/25/huawei-xi... https://www.hoover.org/research/chinas-influence-american-interests-promoting-constructive-vigilance https://www.hoover.org/research/chinas-influence-american-in... https://www.hoover.org/research/chinas-influence-american-interests-technology-and-research https://www.hoover.org/research/chinas-influence-american-in... https://www.investopedia.com/why-huawei-is-in-the-middle-of-the-u-s-china-trade-war-4687522 https://www.investopedia.com/why-huawei-is-in-the-middle-of-... This article contains a timeline regarding Huawei (from U.S. perspective): https://www.cnet.com/news/huawei-ban-full-timeline-us-restrictions-china-trump-android-google-ban-harmony-os/ https://www.cnet.com/news/huawei-ban-full-timeline-us-restri...

zsz 6y ago
Also, I should have made this more clear: The Hoover Institute makes their "China's Influence & American Interests" book (ISBN-10: 0817922857 ) available in PDF format, at this link: https://www.hoover.org/research/chinas-influence-american-interests-promoting-constructive-vigilance https://www.hoover.org/research/chinas-influence-american-in... Also, since i already started another post: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/us-gave-allies-evidence-that-huawei-can-snoop-on-phone-networks-wsj-says/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/us-gave-allies-e... https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/huawei-can-sneak-into-telecom-networks/#:~:text=Huawei%20is%20reportedly%20able%20to,be%20used%20by%20law%20enforcement.&text=%E2%80%9C[Huawei]%20has%20never%20and,told%20the%20Wall%20Street%20Journal https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/huawei-can-sneak-into-tel... "U.S. officials told the Journal that they have been aware of the backdoor access since 2009 but declined to say if the company actually used this access since it was discovered." (again, see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Huawei https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Huawei that details one such security incident/compromise, which U.S. officials declined to mention -- I suppose this puts their decision in context, if you read between the lines) Does Huawei have ties to the CCP? While not stating this outright, it's hard to argue that $30 billion dollars' worth of funding comes with no strings attached: Published in 2009: https://www.telecomasia.net/content/huawei-gets-30b-credit-line-cdb https://www.telecomasia.net/content/huawei-gets-30b-credit-l... Then 2011: https://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/eu-huawei-and-zte-benefit-from-huge-credit-lines-from-china https://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/eu-huawei-and-zte-bene... And: https://www.benton.org/headlines/eu-finds-china-gives-aid-huawei-zte https://www.benton.org/headlines/eu-finds-china-gives-aid-hu... On Huawei's links to the CCP: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/25/huawei-xinjiang-and-chinas-high-tech-surveillance-state-joining-the-dots/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/25/huawei-xi... And finally, regarding the claims that Huawei is "employee owned" -- if you read nothing else, read at least this (meaning, the PDF): https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3372669 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3372669 Link to PDF: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID3372669_code190240.pdf?abstractid=3372669&mirid=1 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID3372669_cod... The bottom line (tl;dr): " The Huawei operating company is 100% owned by a holding company, which is in turn approximately 1% owned by Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei and 99% owned by an entity called a “trade union committee” for the holding company. [...] Given the public nature of trade unions in China, if the ownership stake of the trade union committee is genuine, and if the trade union and its committee function as trade unions generally function in China, then Huawei may be deemed effectively state-owned."

by zsz 6y ago

zsz 6y ago

Also, I should have made this more clear: The Hoover Institute makes their "China's Influence & American Interests" book (ISBN-10: 0817922857 ) available in PDF format, at this link: https://www.hoover.org/research/chinas-influence-american-interests-promoting-constructive-vigilance https://www.hoover.org/research/chinas-influence-american-in... Also, since i already started another post: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/us-gave-allies-evidence-that-huawei-can-snoop-on-phone-networks-wsj-says/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/us-gave-allies-e... https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/huawei-can-sneak-into-telecom-networks/#:~:text=Huawei%20is%20reportedly%20able%20to,be%20used%20by%20law%20enforcement.&text=%E2%80%9C[Huawei]%20has%20never%20and,told%20the%20Wall%20Street%20Journal https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/huawei-can-sneak-into-tel... "U.S. officials told the Journal that they have been aware of the backdoor access since 2009 but declined to say if the company actually used this access since it was discovered." (again, see https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Huawei https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/Huawei that details one such security incident/compromise, which U.S. officials declined to mention -- I suppose this puts their decision in context, if you read between the lines) Does Huawei have ties to the CCP? While not stating this outright, it's hard to argue that $30 billion dollars' worth of funding comes with no strings attached: Published in 2009: https://www.telecomasia.net/content/huawei-gets-30b-credit-line-cdb https://www.telecomasia.net/content/huawei-gets-30b-credit-l... Then 2011: https://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/eu-huawei-and-zte-benefit-from-huge-credit-lines-from-china https://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/eu-huawei-and-zte-bene... And: https://www.benton.org/headlines/eu-finds-china-gives-aid-huawei-zte https://www.benton.org/headlines/eu-finds-china-gives-aid-hu... On Huawei's links to the CCP: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/25/huawei-xinjiang-and-chinas-high-tech-surveillance-state-joining-the-dots/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/25/huawei-xi... And finally, regarding the claims that Huawei is "employee owned" -- if you read nothing else, read at least this (meaning, the PDF): https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3372669 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3372669 Link to PDF: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID3372669_code190240.pdf?abstractid=3372669&mirid=1 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/Delivery.cfm/SSRN_ID3372669_cod... The bottom line (tl;dr): " The Huawei operating company is 100% owned by a holding company, which is in turn approximately 1% owned by Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei and 99% owned by an entity called a “trade union committee” for the holding company. [...] Given the public nature of trade unions in China, if the ownership stake of the trade union committee is genuine, and if the trade union and its committee function as trade unions generally function in China, then Huawei may be deemed effectively state-owned."