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Agreed - what I don't get is: (https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/mozilla_google_search/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/mozilla_google_search...) <

Agreed - what I don't get is: (https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/mozilla_google_search/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/mozilla_google_search...) <quote> However, our source told us Moz will likely pocket $400m to $450m a year between now and 2023 from the arrangement, citing internal discussions held earlier this year. (... snip ...) According to the organization's latest financial figures [PDF], $430m of its 2018 total revenue of $451m came from those internet giants – primarily Google, we understand. These deals were due to be renewed or renegotiated by November this year. As a non-profit open-source operation, Mozilla spends as much as it receives; its 2018 staffing bill was $286m with a headcount of about 1,000, or about $286,000 per person, on average. Despite the renewal with Google, which essentially guaranteed a continuation of its revenue for the next three years, Mozilla axed 250 of its techies on Tuesday, and shut down its office in Taiwan, blaming the “economic conditions resulting from the global pandemic.” </quote> Their cost is probably much more than just staffing - but still - doesn't look that bleak? I get the non-ideal situation of being dependent on you competitor like that, but it _has_ proven to be a robust source of income so far..: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Affiliations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation#Affiliatio... Btw.. is there any way to format a pretty quotation on HN?

bobthepanda 6y ago
Re format, I mostly see people use markdown syntax. > This is not a real pretty quote. > But the good news is that even in uninterpreted form form markdown is pretty readable.
- wizzwizz4 6y ago
  The syntax was in emails before Markdown. I will loudly declare that it was invented in emails so that somebody will add the immediate predecessor, and so on until we end up at an original source.
  - toxik 6y ago
    News groups?
    - mceachen 6y ago
      Nope, email via arpanet (1973) preceeded usenet (1980).
      - btilly 6y ago
        The fact that email preceded usenet does not mean that things cannot have been invented in Usenet before they were invented in email. As a concrete example, :-) was invented on a bulletin board. See http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/sefSmiley.htm http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/sefSmiley.htm for the details.
        mceachen 6y ago
        You're absolutely correct. I'm not ancient enough to say first-hand. I know that threaded replies in BBSes in the early 80s at least coincided with usenet threaded replies. I didn't have a proper email address until years later via my university.
- olejorgenb 6y ago
  It's good for short quotes, but without hardwrapping I doesn't quite work for full paragraphs. (Hardwrapping is bad for narrow screens)
twistedcheeslet 6y ago
Am I the only one who thinks an /average/ wage of 280k is pretty absurd?

bobthepanda 6y ago

Re format, I mostly see people use markdown syntax. > This is not a real pretty quote. > But the good news is that even in uninterpreted form form markdown is pretty readable.

wizzwizz4 6y ago
The syntax was in emails before Markdown. I will loudly declare that it was invented in emails so that somebody will add the immediate predecessor, and so on until we end up at an original source.
- toxik 6y ago
  News groups?
  - mceachen 6y ago
    Nope, email via arpanet (1973) preceeded usenet (1980).
    - btilly 6y ago
      The fact that email preceded usenet does not mean that things cannot have been invented in Usenet before they were invented in email. As a concrete example, :-) was invented on a bulletin board. See http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/sefSmiley.htm http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~sef/sefSmiley.htm for the details.
      - mceachen 6y ago
        You're absolutely correct. I'm not ancient enough to say first-hand. I know that threaded replies in BBSes in the early 80s at least coincided with usenet threaded replies. I didn't have a proper email address until years later via my university.
olejorgenb 6y ago
It's good for short quotes, but without hardwrapping I doesn't quite work for full paragraphs. (Hardwrapping is bad for narrow screens)

twistedcheeslet 6y ago

Am I the only one who thinks an /average/ wage of 280k is pretty absurd?