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You are only describing subset of such people, and maybe even a minority. Many people who suffer from these generalized symptoms you mention are not middle aged

You are only describing subset of such people, and maybe even a minority. Many people who suffer from these generalized symptoms you mention are not middle aged. Many of them lead generally healthy lifestyles. Many of them have specific symptoms that don't go away with regular exercise, and many of them do not lead very stressful lives, aside from the symptoms they feel. It is simply a fact that medicine is ill equipped to deal with generalized symptoms in the absence of obvious test results. It is also a fact that many of these symptoms are attributable to things we DO have tests for (take hyperparathyroidism as an example), leading to the perfectly reasonable assumption among sufferers that there might be a solution to their problems, if only they could figure it out, leading many to self experimentation because they have no other recourse. And of course, there is an answer for each person. In some cases it just goes away, in some cases the general advice of "try sleep and exercise" works well, but in many cases they simply can't be helped by medicine. We don't know what we don't know.

neuronic 6y ago
Also, I'd strongly suggest taking a closer look at Epstein-Barr. I know most people had it (mononucleosis/kissing disease) but some are way worse affected. It's a herpes virus as well, just sticking around. When I had it, it wasn't half as bad as some class mates but way worse than others. So kinda in between. But the consequences have fucked me up for the last 15 years. My health has never been the same - including the development of long term diagnosed issues.
- nucleardog 6y ago
  Yeah, as much as I would tend to agree with the parent comment in their skepticism, after having mono I have to agree with you. Had mono, felt like shit for a few weeks. Was taking painkillers just so I could swallow without feeling like I was trying to eat razor blades. Me before those three weeks and me after is... markedly different. Sure, I don't live the healthiest lifestyle, but I didn't life the healthiest lifestyle before either. I haven't felt rested again since. Whereas I'd previously be up at about 9am every day of my own accord, now I'll sleep until 3 or 4 pm given the chance (i.e., no alarm set). Unless I suddenly aged twenty years in those three weeks, it's a damn big coincidence.

neuronic 6y ago

Also, I'd strongly suggest taking a closer look at Epstein-Barr. I know most people had it (mononucleosis/kissing disease) but some are way worse affected. It's a herpes virus as well, just sticking around. When I had it, it wasn't half as bad as some class mates but way worse than others. So kinda in between. But the consequences have fucked me up for the last 15 years. My health has never been the same - including the development of long term diagnosed issues.

nucleardog 6y ago
Yeah, as much as I would tend to agree with the parent comment in their skepticism, after having mono I have to agree with you. Had mono, felt like shit for a few weeks. Was taking painkillers just so I could swallow without feeling like I was trying to eat razor blades. Me before those three weeks and me after is... markedly different. Sure, I don't live the healthiest lifestyle, but I didn't life the healthiest lifestyle before either. I haven't felt rested again since. Whereas I'd previously be up at about 9am every day of my own accord, now I'll sleep until 3 or 4 pm given the chance (i.e., no alarm set). Unless I suddenly aged twenty years in those three weeks, it's a damn big coincidence.