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Are these (proposed) rule changes more in-line with other nations? I’ve looked at student visas years ago but many of them were very strict and required taking

Are these (proposed) rule changes more in-line with other nations? I’ve looked at student visas years ago but many of them were very strict and required taking English competency exams, with extension requirements. And when traveling on a work visa I wasn’t allowed to even pay for classes. “Among other changes, the proposed rule would limit the time students could spend in English language training to no more than two years over a lifetime and impose limits on the number of times students can change programs at the same degree level or move to a program at a lower degree level” I’m actually surprised that wasn’t already a rule, and probably has been ripe for abuse!

Nbox9 6y ago
Does it really matter if students change degree programs or go after an additional lower degree level than they already have? Being a student is still a full time time occupation, the university is extracting increased tuition from international students, and the local businesses around the university have access to more customers. I don’t see how it’s an abuse, I see it as a win for the community.
akhilcacharya 6y ago
> Are these (proposed) rule changes more in-line with other nations? Why should it be in-line with other nations?
- addicted 6y ago
  Isn’t “in line with other nations” the obvious standard one should be aspiring for when they have a world leading system? /s
amf12 6y ago
Are these (proposed) rule changes more in-line with other nations? Yes and no. In other countries visa (or a permit card) == status. You can get it renewed in a week in the country of residence (meaning they don't have to travel to their home country for renewal). In the US however, visa and status are two different things. You can remain a legal resident with a valid status but an expired visa. You only need a visa to re-enter the country.
- wenc 6y ago
  Yes, it took me a while to appreciate the difference between a "visa" and "status" (in U.S. parlance). The analogy in my head: Visa = permission to apply for entry (i.e. like an unexpired password to login) Status = permission to stay (i.e. like a logged-in session) So a visa is like authentication credentials with an expiring password (only needed to apply for entry or re-entry, can expire during session), and status is like authorization (token needs to remain unexpired throughout the session, otherwise will be in violation). https://internationalaffairs.uchicago.edu/page/visa-vs-status https://internationalaffairs.uchicago.edu/page/visa-vs-statu...

Nbox9 6y ago

Does it really matter if students change degree programs or go after an additional lower degree level than they already have? Being a student is still a full time time occupation, the university is extracting increased tuition from international students, and the local businesses around the university have access to more customers. I don’t see how it’s an abuse, I see it as a win for the community.

akhilcacharya 6y ago

> Are these (proposed) rule changes more in-line with other nations? Why should it be in-line with other nations?

addicted 6y ago
Isn’t “in line with other nations” the obvious standard one should be aspiring for when they have a world leading system? /s

amf12 6y ago

Are these (proposed) rule changes more in-line with other nations? Yes and no. In other countries visa (or a permit card) == status. You can get it renewed in a week in the country of residence (meaning they don't have to travel to their home country for renewal). In the US however, visa and status are two different things. You can remain a legal resident with a valid status but an expired visa. You only need a visa to re-enter the country.

wenc 6y ago
Yes, it took me a while to appreciate the difference between a "visa" and "status" (in U.S. parlance). The analogy in my head: Visa = permission to apply for entry (i.e. like an unexpired password to login) Status = permission to stay (i.e. like a logged-in session) So a visa is like authentication credentials with an expiring password (only needed to apply for entry or re-entry, can expire during session), and status is like authorization (token needs to remain unexpired throughout the session, otherwise will be in violation). https://internationalaffairs.uchicago.edu/page/visa-vs-status https://internationalaffairs.uchicago.edu/page/visa-vs-statu...