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Because in one case, if allegations are true, thousands of people are sick, hurt, and dead in the chaos. In the other case, another bad man is elected as normal

Because in one case, if allegations are true, thousands of people are sick, hurt, and dead in the chaos. In the other case, another bad man is elected as normal.

newen 6y ago
Mass-privatization and dismantling of the government in Russia (that was done with strong influence and election tampering by the US) caused increase in poverty, increase in death rates, lowering of life expectancy in Russia. A lot of people in Russia died due to US election tampering. This is a under discussed topic in the West.
- thrwway34 6y ago
  Let's discuss it then, but first I need some sources on 'A lot of people in Russia died due to US election tampering' I know that a lot of people in Russia survived because of humanitarian aid from US though.
  - newen 6y ago
    This is just one study [1]. There are plenty of others. Mass privatization killed a lot of people in Russia. It’s already been publicly admitted by US politicians that the Russian elections were influenced and tampered with by the US as discussed in above threads. I’m sure you’ve heard a lot of things that put the US in a positive light. That’s great but doesn’t say anything except that the US says a lot of good things about themselves. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5459934/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5459934/
    - thrwway34 6y ago
      Don't shift the goalposts, I've asked for sources on 'A lot of people in Russia died due to US election tampering'
      - sudosysgen 6y ago
        That report literally details how the "reforms" the US meddled in Russian elections in order to see happen lead to millions of excess deaths.
        thrwway34 6y ago
        This report just talks about _projected_ excess deaths, nothing else. Bad job, comrade.
        sudosysgen 6y ago
        No, it doesn't, it discusses the results of PrivMort, a retrospective study, that showed 13% increases in mortality for men in Russia for an extended period of time. This corresponded to about 7 million excess deaths beyond the death rates expected of the RSFSR under the Soviet Union.
sudosysgen 6y ago
The catastrophy that is the Russian economy and social systems have led to hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths over the years and has put million in misery. This is because the liberalization process was incredibly corrupt and catastrophic. Life expectancy and GNP per capita (accounting for inflation) still haven't recovered from under the Soviet Union.

Because in one case, if allegations are true, thousands of people are sick, hurt, and dead in the chaos. In the other case, another bad man is elected as normal.

newen 6y ago

Mass-privatization and dismantling of the government in Russia (that was done with strong influence and election tampering by the US) caused increase in poverty, increase in death rates, lowering of life expectancy in Russia. A lot of people in Russia died due to US election tampering. This is a under discussed topic in the West.

thrwway34 6y ago
Let's discuss it then, but first I need some sources on 'A lot of people in Russia died due to US election tampering' I know that a lot of people in Russia survived because of humanitarian aid from US though.
- newen 6y ago
  This is just one study [1]. There are plenty of others. Mass privatization killed a lot of people in Russia. It’s already been publicly admitted by US politicians that the Russian elections were influenced and tampered with by the US as discussed in above threads. I’m sure you’ve heard a lot of things that put the US in a positive light. That’s great but doesn’t say anything except that the US says a lot of good things about themselves. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5459934/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5459934/
  - thrwway34 6y ago
    Don't shift the goalposts, I've asked for sources on 'A lot of people in Russia died due to US election tampering'
    - sudosysgen 6y ago
      That report literally details how the "reforms" the US meddled in Russian elections in order to see happen lead to millions of excess deaths.
      - thrwway34 6y ago
        This report just talks about _projected_ excess deaths, nothing else. Bad job, comrade.
        sudosysgen 6y ago
        No, it doesn't, it discusses the results of PrivMort, a retrospective study, that showed 13% increases in mortality for men in Russia for an extended period of time. This corresponded to about 7 million excess deaths beyond the death rates expected of the RSFSR under the Soviet Union.

sudosysgen 6y ago

The catastrophy that is the Russian economy and social systems have led to hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths over the years and has put million in misery. This is because the liberalization process was incredibly corrupt and catastrophic. Life expectancy and GNP per capita (accounting for inflation) still haven't recovered from under the Soviet Union.