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Remember when CNN said that trump retweeting a gif of a pro wrestling match with the CNN logo photoshopped into it was a threat to journalists, and then when th

Remember when CNN said that trump retweeting a gif of a pro wrestling match with the CNN logo photoshopped into it was a threat to journalists, and then when the US was trying to prosecute a journalist who committed no crimes on US soil, they said nothing?

oxymoran 6y ago
Remember when they smeared Assange as a Russian asset because they published the DNC and Podesta emails? Kind of hard for them to back him now. What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.
- srtjstjsj 6y ago
  You can be both a foreign asset and a journalist. If the US government is good, then conspiring with it's enemies to discredit the US would be wrong. But if the US government is bad, well, the US government has no moral right to prosecute, but that doesn't matter from a power perspective. There's no legal way to fix a broken legal system, just as an inconsistent logical system can't overcome itself.
  - whatshisface 6y ago
    >There's no legal way to fix a broken legal system, just as an inconsistent logical system can't overcome itself. Legal systems are not actually that rigid, see for example the long tradition of SCOTUS overturning case precedent including their own. See also the large number of elected judges in the US, who could be replaced directly by people.
- klyrs 6y ago
  > Kind of hard for them to back him now. Weird how we've gone from expecting journalists to cover multiple sides of a story to this. And by weird I mean horrifying
- eternalban 6y ago
  > What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. You mean ends don't justify means? That has proven to be a hardsell to ideologues. Principle moral failing of the modern man is adopting this 'universal moral and ethical waiver' as their guiding light (regardless of affected ideological garb).
- mhh__ 6y ago
  If they use you are you an asset or just a cog in a gear? Did they ever disclose where they were from or their communications with the source?
- dralley 6y ago
  Yeah, that's not why. The "why" is because Assange has repeatedly (2010 and 2017) received leaks from within the Russian government, and refused to publish them. On one occasion having gone silent shortly before landing a job hosting a show for Russia Today. And also claimed to have documents about Trump, which he has also never published. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l... https://apnews.com/article/af39586daf254cddb3d955453c45865d https://apnews.com/article/af39586daf254cddb3d955453c45865d
  - seattledev 6y ago
    The idea that he has info on Trump he didn't publish is ridiculous. Assange is not the only person on the planet capable of leaking information, and the entirety of the US media establishment would have clamored for the opportunity. If the information really existed, someone else would have leaked it. The only people "claiming" this are random people on the internet with a rage boner against Assange.
Shivetya 6y ago
He exposed the wrong people of the wrong party during the wrong administration, hence the media turning its back on him. Simple as that. Had he dumped a trove on Trump he would be feted by the media instead he is a pariah
ntsplnkv2 6y ago
"The press is doing everything within their power to fight the magnificence of the phrase, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! They can’t stand the fact that this Administration has done more than virtually any other Administration in its first 2yrs. They are truly the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1114221533461790721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1114221533461790721%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fadministration%2F437610-trump-calls-press-the-enemy-of-the-people https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11142215334617907... I mean. Do I need to say anymore? You can't be a freedom fighter and be OK with that statement. It's mutually exclusive. Period.

oxymoran 6y ago

Remember when they smeared Assange as a Russian asset because they published the DNC and Podesta emails? Kind of hard for them to back him now. What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive.

srtjstjsj 6y ago
You can be both a foreign asset and a journalist. If the US government is good, then conspiring with it's enemies to discredit the US would be wrong. But if the US government is bad, well, the US government has no moral right to prosecute, but that doesn't matter from a power perspective. There's no legal way to fix a broken legal system, just as an inconsistent logical system can't overcome itself.
- whatshisface 6y ago
  >There's no legal way to fix a broken legal system, just as an inconsistent logical system can't overcome itself. Legal systems are not actually that rigid, see for example the long tradition of SCOTUS overturning case precedent including their own. See also the large number of elected judges in the US, who could be replaced directly by people.
klyrs 6y ago
> Kind of hard for them to back him now. Weird how we've gone from expecting journalists to cover multiple sides of a story to this. And by weird I mean horrifying
eternalban 6y ago
> What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. You mean ends don't justify means? That has proven to be a hardsell to ideologues. Principle moral failing of the modern man is adopting this 'universal moral and ethical waiver' as their guiding light (regardless of affected ideological garb).
mhh__ 6y ago
If they use you are you an asset or just a cog in a gear? Did they ever disclose where they were from or their communications with the source?
dralley 6y ago
Yeah, that's not why. The "why" is because Assange has repeatedly (2010 and 2017) received leaks from within the Russian government, and refused to publish them. On one occasion having gone silent shortly before landing a job hosting a show for Russia Today. And also claimed to have documents about Trump, which he has also never published. https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-l... https://apnews.com/article/af39586daf254cddb3d955453c45865d https://apnews.com/article/af39586daf254cddb3d955453c45865d
- seattledev 6y ago
  The idea that he has info on Trump he didn't publish is ridiculous. Assange is not the only person on the planet capable of leaking information, and the entirety of the US media establishment would have clamored for the opportunity. If the information really existed, someone else would have leaked it. The only people "claiming" this are random people on the internet with a rage boner against Assange.

Shivetya 6y ago

He exposed the wrong people of the wrong party during the wrong administration, hence the media turning its back on him. Simple as that. Had he dumped a trove on Trump he would be feted by the media instead he is a pariah

ntsplnkv2 6y ago

"The press is doing everything within their power to fight the magnificence of the phrase, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! They can’t stand the fact that this Administration has done more than virtually any other Administration in its first 2yrs. They are truly the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE!" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1114221533461790721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1114221533461790721%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fhomenews%2Fadministration%2F437610-trump-calls-press-the-enemy-of-the-people https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/11142215334617907... I mean. Do I need to say anymore? You can't be a freedom fighter and be OK with that statement. It's mutually exclusive. Period.