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Outside of the initial stance of wanting to maintain Python 2, I'm amazed at how much of a jerk the Arch distribution maintainer is being to everyone else.
by dagmx 6y ago
Outside of the initial stance of wanting to maintain Python 2, I'm amazed at how much of a jerk the Arch distribution maintainer is being to everyone else.
- ashtonkem 6y agoThat’s a pretty strong and broad statement. Do you have any evidence or incidents to back that up?
- franga2000 6y ago...the link...
- dagmx 6y agoMy comment is a response to the comment I was replying to, that contains the link with his comments. They do not extend to anything outside of that, so I don't think it's a broad statement. Just my opinion on his response to the Debian maintainer and other polite requests.
- ashtonkem 6y agoI somehow missed the link in the original comment, my mistake.
- Karishma1234 6y agoWelcome to the world of software development of opinionated als. Now, I have read anything from the maintainer so I am not sure if he/she fits the bill but I think entire SWE should consider this sort of behaviour as a problem and create systematics interventions to stop it.
- httpsterio 6y agoI don't think a volunteer who takes the time to actually reply without being outright dismissive is a jerk. They handled that thread with poise.
- gommm 6y agoCompletely disagree with you on that, he comes across as someone who is tired of always being asked the same questions, who does work to solve the problem and is frustrated that a lot of people are unappreciative of Kovid's work. Given how much criticism and entitled requests opensource maintainers have to deal with, it's not a surprise to me that he'd be tired. But I do think that he is still well reasoned in the way he expresses himself.
- dagmx 6y agoI think he completely shut down any respectful discussion with the Debian maintainer. It's not just discussion with the requests from users where I think he was rude, though I can understand his position more, but his attitude to the Debian maintainer is unfortunate
- tangus 6y agoSo if A says something incorrect, B can't set the record straight because that's unfortunate and shuts down any respectful discussion? I'm thinking that reactions to this maintainer's answers probably align to which side of the discussion one often find themselves.
- gravitas 6y agoI disagree as an Arch user; Eli is more than just some packager, he does a metric boatload of work for the distro and has his fingers in many pies. He is speaking from a position of knowledge and experience and replying with skilled authority on the subject matter.
- dagmx 6y agoI make no value proposition on his work, knowledge or the extents of his role. I simply quoted the role he mentioned in the link, which makes no mention of his other contributions to Arch. Regardless, I find his tone and attitude quite condescending to the Debian maintainer.
- gravitas 6y agoBut is he wrong, even if true? A Debian maintainer popped in and basically said "we're doing nothing wrong" while there's discreet evidence to the contrary, Debian has altered the upstream code based on the opinion of one person and disabled features of the software.[1] [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640026 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640026