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That was kind of my point, all of that is through a human centric point of view. What if higher intelligence is something else? Look at say plants, they've bee
by grawprog 6y ago
That was kind of my point, all of that is through a human centric point of view. What if higher intelligence is something else?
Look at say plants, they've been shown to be intelligent in various ways.
https://academic.oup.com/aob/article/92/1/1/177536 https://academic.oup.com/aob/article/92/1/1/177536
Now, when you take an ecosystem like a forest, something interesting happens. The plants begin to communicate with eachother using electrical signals passed along the mycorrhizal networks of the fungi that live symbiotically with them.
https://academic.oup.com/aobpla/article-abstract/doi/10.1093/aobpla/plv050/201398 https://academic.oup.com/aobpla/article-abstract/doi/10.1093...
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-75596-0_10 https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-75596-0_...
So, these networks facilitate learning by individual plants within the network, they facilitate long term memory, complex coordinated long term behaviour. Now, a lot of these behaviours and things happen over spans of decades to hundreds if not thousands of years.
That sounds very much like some level of higher intelligence, yet those plants will never complete a 2048 or sokoban puzzle.
- filoeleven 6y agoThose seem like great reasons to focus our efforts on things that are very close to us in their mode of being first, and expand from there as we learn more examples. Plants and fungi being broadly sessile means that their cognition, if they have it, will be expressed in radically different ways from ours. Whereas birds or dolphins are a lot like us: brains and bodies.
- SonOfLilit 6y agoIf plants were highly generally intelligent (as I suspect corvids are) and if I were able to convince them that they would get a prize they highly desire if they solve a difficult Sokoban level with controls they can use (which has been done many times with corvids) then I would definitely expect them to solve the level given a few decades or centuries, yes. (I personally don't believe plants to possess general intelligence, but I would be delighted to discover I'm wrong)