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I do wonder which part of my premise readers find unrealistic? - technology is getting more powerful and smaller - large companies can be hacked - leaked dat

I do wonder which part of my premise readers find unrealistic? - technology is getting more powerful and smaller - large companies can be hacked - leaked data is easily available on the net - smart glasses will become more common - apps can be made to facially id people using leaked data Are any of those statements outlandish?

AnotherTechie 6y ago
>Are any of those statements outlandish? websites that host the leaked celebrity nudes are torn down constantly. I can't imagine that you can upload that chunk of data or that app onto any platform without repercussions. On top of that, my tin-foil hat take is that internet access will eventually be completely de-anonymized. Social security or gov. ID to sign on. It becomes much harder then to spread TB of personal information. Especially since even in 2035 I can't imagine there being very many hundred(S) of terabyte datasets being passed around social circles.
- uniqueid 6y ago
  websites that host the leaked celebrity nudes are torn down constantly That is true, yet surely most live on as torrents (and discoverable via hundreds of sketchy torrent websites that pop up and fizzle away)? Even before most people had broadband, nerds traded collections of pirated software via "sneaker net" internet access will eventually be completely de-anonymized. Social security or gov. ID to sign on. That scenario seems possible to me, too, and I agree its outcome would make what I envisioned less likely. It's not guaranteed to happen though.
judge2020 6y ago
I find it hard to imagine Google being leaked, though. The sheer amount of data (drive files, gmail data, etc) Google has in its silos makes it almost impossible to copy anywhere else other than on Google's own servers or another giant's DCs. Even just the metadata of every GMail message is probably a few dozen exabytes at the least. Any sort of Google data leak that would allow for you to find a random person would require a persistent backdoor into their systems. The only realistic attack on Google would be some targeted/filtered dump of celebrities or perhaps entire GSuite organizations' emails and files - and even then it would only make headlines, not cause any real trouble for Google outside of <1% of their regular user base ditching for protonmail or what have you.
- samoa42 6y ago
  > The sheer amount of data (drive files, gmail data, etc) Google has in its silos makes it almost impossible to copy anywhere else other than on Google's own servers or another giant's DCs my first computer had a two Megabyte Harddisk - around twenty years later my Phone has a 256 Gigabyte MicroSD card it's going to happen
  - tester34 6y ago
    People also generate more and more data.
    - uniqueid 6y ago
      That's another great point, and it does mean that users always have less to worry about when it comes to recent data. But when it comes to a user's old data... well, you see where I'm going with that :)
- uniqueid 6y ago
  I find it hard to imagine Google being leaked Not all their data, and not all at once, but a little here, a little there. The sheer amount of data It won't be possible to collect all of Google's data. It will get easier to collect more and more of it though (as storage grows larger and the net becomes faster). I wouldn't be surprised if all the email Hotmail handled in the 90s could fit on a consumer 20TB drive from today.
pmontra 6y ago
It won't happen in that way, because reality likes to defy predictions, but that's the general direction we're heading to. My take: it won't be something everybody does (unless provided by some service, which looks illegal at least under GDPR) but be prepared for extensive profiling by whoever really cares about doing it.
- uniqueid 6y ago
  That's probably an accurate take. I agree, your average internet user isn't likely to configure their devices to do such things. It will be the domain of techies, oddballs, and assorted edge-cases (eg: someone who wants to avoid the law, mob, stalker, etc).
jovdg 6y ago
The (most) unrealistic part for me is probably Apple allowing such an app in their store...
- uniqueid 6y ago
  Good catch! Apple would likely close off the most common avenues to provide such an app. There are nevertheless many ways a developer could make it available. Off the top of my head, one could distribute it as a webapp, or use an exploit to install, or provide as an Xcode project to compile and install directly. It also is possible someone will force Apple to permit third parties to run app stores. I should point out that while I chose Apple in my comment, there will be other brands with fewer restrictions.

AnotherTechie 6y ago

>Are any of those statements outlandish? websites that host the leaked celebrity nudes are torn down constantly. I can't imagine that you can upload that chunk of data or that app onto any platform without repercussions. On top of that, my tin-foil hat take is that internet access will eventually be completely de-anonymized. Social security or gov. ID to sign on. It becomes much harder then to spread TB of personal information. Especially since even in 2035 I can't imagine there being very many hundred(S) of terabyte datasets being passed around social circles.

uniqueid 6y ago
websites that host the leaked celebrity nudes are torn down constantly That is true, yet surely most live on as torrents (and discoverable via hundreds of sketchy torrent websites that pop up and fizzle away)? Even before most people had broadband, nerds traded collections of pirated software via "sneaker net" internet access will eventually be completely de-anonymized. Social security or gov. ID to sign on. That scenario seems possible to me, too, and I agree its outcome would make what I envisioned less likely. It's not guaranteed to happen though.

judge2020 6y ago

I find it hard to imagine Google being leaked, though. The sheer amount of data (drive files, gmail data, etc) Google has in its silos makes it almost impossible to copy anywhere else other than on Google's own servers or another giant's DCs. Even just the metadata of every GMail message is probably a few dozen exabytes at the least. Any sort of Google data leak that would allow for you to find a random person would require a persistent backdoor into their systems. The only realistic attack on Google would be some targeted/filtered dump of celebrities or perhaps entire GSuite organizations' emails and files - and even then it would only make headlines, not cause any real trouble for Google outside of <1% of their regular user base ditching for protonmail or what have you.

samoa42 6y ago
> The sheer amount of data (drive files, gmail data, etc) Google has in its silos makes it almost impossible to copy anywhere else other than on Google's own servers or another giant's DCs my first computer had a two Megabyte Harddisk - around twenty years later my Phone has a 256 Gigabyte MicroSD card it's going to happen
- tester34 6y ago
  People also generate more and more data.
  - uniqueid 6y ago
    That's another great point, and it does mean that users always have less to worry about when it comes to recent data. But when it comes to a user's old data... well, you see where I'm going with that :)
uniqueid 6y ago
I find it hard to imagine Google being leaked Not all their data, and not all at once, but a little here, a little there. The sheer amount of data It won't be possible to collect all of Google's data. It will get easier to collect more and more of it though (as storage grows larger and the net becomes faster). I wouldn't be surprised if all the email Hotmail handled in the 90s could fit on a consumer 20TB drive from today.

pmontra 6y ago

It won't happen in that way, because reality likes to defy predictions, but that's the general direction we're heading to. My take: it won't be something everybody does (unless provided by some service, which looks illegal at least under GDPR) but be prepared for extensive profiling by whoever really cares about doing it.

uniqueid 6y ago
That's probably an accurate take. I agree, your average internet user isn't likely to configure their devices to do such things. It will be the domain of techies, oddballs, and assorted edge-cases (eg: someone who wants to avoid the law, mob, stalker, etc).

jovdg 6y ago

The (most) unrealistic part for me is probably Apple allowing such an app in their store...

uniqueid 6y ago
Good catch! Apple would likely close off the most common avenues to provide such an app. There are nevertheless many ways a developer could make it available. Off the top of my head, one could distribute it as a webapp, or use an exploit to install, or provide as an Xcode project to compile and install directly. It also is possible someone will force Apple to permit third parties to run app stores. I should point out that while I chose Apple in my comment, there will be other brands with fewer restrictions.