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Isn’t it telling that they described a complete ban on gatherings for an entire age range a “minor sacrifice”? Really shows you how far the overton window shif

Isn’t it telling that they described a complete ban on gatherings for an entire age range a “minor sacrifice”? Really shows you how far the overton window shifted. Also doubly ironic that I got called paranoid for talking about what is literally happening right now, not what I fear might happen.

davesque 6y ago
Yes, completely out of context and without any implied qualifications, such a ban would be too much. But that's not what we're dealing with here, is it? This is not something that will remain in effect for years to come and I think any reasonable person understands that. Yes, I do consider a period of a few weeks or maybe even a couple months of self quarantine a small sacrifice compared with the alternative as I understand it. I was happy to comply with the shutdowns when they were in effect in Colorado earlier this year and I think these young people should also be willing to do it. And I don't waste time kidding myself into thinking I can effectively judge these actions with no expertise in these areas. I'm not an epidemiologist and I'm sure neither are you.
- aww_dang 6y ago
  https://www.google.com/search?q=%22new+normal%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22new+normal%22 >"But this doesn’t mean we should go back to the ‘old normal’." https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/covid-19/information/covid-19-new-normal https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/covid-19/info... >"There's nothing new about the 'new normal'. Here's why" >"Normal' has not worked for a majority of the world's population, so why would it start working now? We should use our discomfort to forge a new paradigm instead." https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/theres-nothing-new-about-this-new-normal-heres-why/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/theres-nothing-new-ab...
davesque 6y ago
Also, here's another comment you made in this article: > It’s kind of like how everyone thinks that they would have opposed the Nazis because they grew up being taught that Nazis were bad. The truth is, this experiment in mass collective delusion has made it very clear which among us would have spoken out. > The ones reporting their neighbors for having a gathering or not wearing a mask while watering their lawn would have happily helped participate in genocide. Don’t doubt it. So yes, you're acting paranoid and not contributing meaningfully to the conversation.
- ls612 6y ago
  Aside from the part where I didn’t say that you had a good point.
  - davesque 6y ago
    Why are you commenting as "I" in response to a comment directed at __blockcipher__?
    - ls612 6y ago
      Sorry about that. The way HN renders on my phone it looked like you were replying to me.
- __blockcipher__ 6y ago
  I stand by the comment. I didn't say that Nazis were invading the country. I said the same unquestioning deference to authority was at play then as it is now. There's nothing paranoid about a reflection on human nature.

davesque 6y ago

Yes, completely out of context and without any implied qualifications, such a ban would be too much. But that's not what we're dealing with here, is it? This is not something that will remain in effect for years to come and I think any reasonable person understands that. Yes, I do consider a period of a few weeks or maybe even a couple months of self quarantine a small sacrifice compared with the alternative as I understand it. I was happy to comply with the shutdowns when they were in effect in Colorado earlier this year and I think these young people should also be willing to do it. And I don't waste time kidding myself into thinking I can effectively judge these actions with no expertise in these areas. I'm not an epidemiologist and I'm sure neither are you.

aww_dang 6y ago
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22new+normal%22 https://www.google.com/search?q=%22new+normal%22 >"But this doesn’t mean we should go back to the ‘old normal’." https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/covid-19/information/covid-19-new-normal https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/covid-19/info... >"There's nothing new about the 'new normal'. Here's why" >"Normal' has not worked for a majority of the world's population, so why would it start working now? We should use our discomfort to forge a new paradigm instead." https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/theres-nothing-new-about-this-new-normal-heres-why/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/06/theres-nothing-new-ab...

davesque 6y ago

Also, here's another comment you made in this article: > It’s kind of like how everyone thinks that they would have opposed the Nazis because they grew up being taught that Nazis were bad. The truth is, this experiment in mass collective delusion has made it very clear which among us would have spoken out. > The ones reporting their neighbors for having a gathering or not wearing a mask while watering their lawn would have happily helped participate in genocide. Don’t doubt it. So yes, you're acting paranoid and not contributing meaningfully to the conversation.

ls612 6y ago
Aside from the part where I didn’t say that you had a good point.
- davesque 6y ago
  Why are you commenting as "I" in response to a comment directed at __blockcipher__?
  - ls612 6y ago
    Sorry about that. The way HN renders on my phone it looked like you were replying to me.
__blockcipher__ 6y ago
I stand by the comment. I didn't say that Nazis were invading the country. I said the same unquestioning deference to authority was at play then as it is now. There's nothing paranoid about a reflection on human nature.