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I know this will inspire some backlash but I am sick and tired of all these different browsers and what they can and cannot support. I would actually pay good m

I know this will inspire some backlash but I am sick and tired of all these different browsers and what they can and cannot support. I would actually pay good money every year for a browser if they would all just do the same job. As a developer all this crap gets boring, day after day, endless checking broswers. And to top that off, Microsoft are thinking of releasing another. IE6 support ends in 2014, are Microsoft trying their best to have 10 active versions before then?? I think, just leave one of the companies to it and let them get on with it, I know competition inspires innovation but its getting stupid now. I think leave either Mozilla, Google or Opera to the job. Operating system supplier, get on with what you are doing and make operating systems! Microsoft, if you are reading this, please give it up. I use your products every day but I have not actively used Internet Explorer for 6 years, I only use it when I want my blood to boil when I test a website in IE6, IE7, IE8 and IE9. Only to see that it works in every single one but IE7????!!?!?!?!?! Tests like this shouldn't need to exist. It should just be a case of, "Oh there is a new standard out, {Browser Manufacturer} supports this already and we are good to go". I wish I could say, "Rant over". But it's not, i'm going grey at 27 and it's all because of browser testing. Yes Microsoft, I'm looking at you.

smackfu 16y ago
Honestly, if you can't handle developing for different systems with minor different bugs that you have to work around, I think development is not the thing for you. It's like people expect things to be perfect and they whine and moan if they have to do a little extra work because it's not. Get out in the real world of non-computer engineering and product development and you have to deal with all sorts of non-ideal situations, and people just deal with it.
- chrislomax 16y ago
  So you are happy to accept that there is a standard that people do not adhere to? It's not like I have to do a "little extra work", it's a lot of extra work. We can't do transparent PNG's because IE6 doesn't support them. We can't use PNG fixes as it overlays buttons that are absolutely positioned as it gives an overlay on them. I'm not asking for things to be perfect, I'm asking for a standard and for people to stick to it. Microsoft are useless when it comes to browsers. Yeah they more or less invented ajax with OWA but beyond that they are just a pain. I think you have given it to the situation, it doesn't have to be like this. There are many browsers that don't have these issues. When I test my website in Mozilla, I don't find myself checking Safari, Chrome or Opera, I know they work. If you looked around the real world you would spot there is a whole campaign to bring IE6 down, its not just a few people "Whining and moaning", its a whole world annoyed with a stupid browser that will have been active for 13 years when it departs. It's with Microsoft having the worst update policies and coming out with stupid comments like "let's make HTML 5 native to Windows 7". Native for gods sake. The guy should have been shot when he came out with that comment. Sacked and forgotten, that is the mindset that has got Microsoft where it is today with IE6.

smackfu 16y ago

Honestly, if you can't handle developing for different systems with minor different bugs that you have to work around, I think development is not the thing for you. It's like people expect things to be perfect and they whine and moan if they have to do a little extra work because it's not. Get out in the real world of non-computer engineering and product development and you have to deal with all sorts of non-ideal situations, and people just deal with it.

chrislomax 16y ago
So you are happy to accept that there is a standard that people do not adhere to? It's not like I have to do a "little extra work", it's a lot of extra work. We can't do transparent PNG's because IE6 doesn't support them. We can't use PNG fixes as it overlays buttons that are absolutely positioned as it gives an overlay on them. I'm not asking for things to be perfect, I'm asking for a standard and for people to stick to it. Microsoft are useless when it comes to browsers. Yeah they more or less invented ajax with OWA but beyond that they are just a pain. I think you have given it to the situation, it doesn't have to be like this. There are many browsers that don't have these issues. When I test my website in Mozilla, I don't find myself checking Safari, Chrome or Opera, I know they work. If you looked around the real world you would spot there is a whole campaign to bring IE6 down, its not just a few people "Whining and moaning", its a whole world annoyed with a stupid browser that will have been active for 13 years when it departs. It's with Microsoft having the worst update policies and coming out with stupid comments like "let's make HTML 5 native to Windows 7". Native for gods sake. The guy should have been shot when he came out with that comment. Sacked and forgotten, that is the mindset that has got Microsoft where it is today with IE6.