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Remember Ring's partnership with 1300 local police departments? https://www.wired.com/story/ces-2020-amazon-defends-ring-police-partnerships/ https://www.wired

by acruns 6y ago

Remember Ring's partnership with 1300 local police departments? https://www.wired.com/story/ces-2020-amazon-defends-ring-police-partnerships/ https://www.wired.com/story/ces-2020-amazon-defends-ring-pol... Remember Ring's Android app being full of 3rd party trackers? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/01/ring-doorbell-app-packed-third-party-trackers https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/01/ring-doorbell-app-pack... Remember Ring's implementation of E2EE? Neither do I. While I don't really care from the perspective of 'I don't do anything illegal', I don't own any ring / Alexa / Nest / Home automation. Mostly because I don't like the trend towards optimal laziness personally, and it doesn't provide much in the way of value. The video shows this, the guys house is already broken into, is a drone going to stop a burglar from taking your laptop off that kitchen table? I have a better deterent, a dog which is much more effective according to felons (https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/crime/we-asked-86-burglars-how-they-broke-into-homes/277-344333696 https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/crime/we-asked-86-burglars...) This is just too creepy to me. edit:formatting

danepowell 6y ago
> Mostly because I don't like the trend towards optimal laziness personally It's easy to characterize home automation this way, and certainly "optimal laziness" is part of the appeal for some people, but it's genuinely useful in so many other ways. For instance, hallway lights that automatically turn on and off in response to motion _and_ at a dimmer setting at night, so you don't trip over a dog toy or blind yourself in the middle of the night. That's very hard to replicate in other ways (nightlights waste energy and are still bright enough to keep me awake). Still a first-world frill to be sure, and maybe not worth it for everyone. But not without value, apart from "laziness".
- scollet 6y ago
  Definitely don't need that connected to the internet. Would love to hear some useful features.

by acruns 6y ago

danepowell 6y ago

> Mostly because I don't like the trend towards optimal laziness personally It's easy to characterize home automation this way, and certainly "optimal laziness" is part of the appeal for some people, but it's genuinely useful in so many other ways. For instance, hallway lights that automatically turn on and off in response to motion _and_ at a dimmer setting at night, so you don't trip over a dog toy or blind yourself in the middle of the night. That's very hard to replicate in other ways (nightlights waste energy and are still bright enough to keep me awake). Still a first-world frill to be sure, and maybe not worth it for everyone. But not without value, apart from "laziness".

scollet 6y ago
Definitely don't need that connected to the internet. Would love to hear some useful features.