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The only time I would advise people to deal with rocket internet is if they're a developer who is just moving to Berlin. Lots of fun to be had, everyone else ha
by johnnyfaehell 6y ago
The only time I would advise people to deal with rocket internet is if they're a developer who is just moving to Berlin. Lots of fun to be had, everyone else has just moved so there are tons of people who hangout. After a while get to know the city and find a different company to work for.
Rocket Internet is known for doing pretty much what the quote in the article has "What they're doing is totally legal and totally immoral." How they operate is rather well known.
- atlasunshrugged 6y agoAs a nontechnical person who moved to Berlin and whose first job was at Rocket, I echo this even for non-technical people. Stuff was a mess, turnover was absurd (I lasted about 8 months), but you have a great little network from Rocket people who leave and go to other companies in the city
- bogomipz 6y agoOut of curiosity are you still in Berlin? What happens when a company like Rocket hires you and you leave? Do you need to have something lined up immediately for visa reason or is there a grace period where you have a bit of time to find something new?
- nicbou 6y agoIf you're not a EU citizen, you have 3 months after losing your job to find another visa sponsor, if I'm not mistaken.
- atlasunshrugged 6y agoNo longer in Berlin, I ended up moving to Estonia to work for their government and then just bounced around Eastern Europe until Covid happened. If your work was sponsoring your visa you have to leave after a set amount of time unless you get another one (assuming non EU citizen). That said, if you're an engineer or have access to capital it's not that tough to get a visa somewhere in Europe. I'm personally considering doing the Dutch American Friendship Treaty path once Covid is over but haven't decided yet.
- Marciplan 6y agoAh, DAFT. The glorious deal where US citizens can work and live in the NL and the Dutch can.. welcome you to NL.
- atlasunshrugged 6y agoWhat a scheme! Unfortunately, if that deal was being negotiated today I doubt the US would have the weight to get such a one-sided transaction done.
- rorykoehler 6y agoWhy is that unfortunate? What would the US have to lose allowing (mostly) highly educated Dutch people into the US?
- atlasunshrugged 6y agoI meant more that the loss of US power is unfortunate (and was being a little glib, obviously upsides and downsides to the US not being the only superpower anymore) - I would love if more Dutch came to the US, maybe SF would finally get some bike lanes
- DyslexicAtheist 6y agoI'm not Dutch nor familiar with the DAFT[1] scheme but from the wording I sense there is a hilarious insider story buried here somewhere? [1] what a name
- dx034 6y agoBad for the individual but probably good for the country? They get US developers and don't lose their Dutch employees to higher paid SV jobs. Brain drain in tech is a big issue in Europe due to salaries paid in SV, not everything bad for the individual is actually a bad deal for the country.
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- dukeme09 6y agoTechnically yes, but in practice, you can obtain a Jobseeker visa[1], which will give you an additional six months to search for a job. This can be applied for inside of Germany at the city government offices. [1] https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/visa/kinds-of-visa/jobseekers/ https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/visa/kinds-of-visa/job...
- dolel22 6y agoGenerally yes, there was strong demand for software engineers in Berlin pre-covid. It's still there albeit weaker, so you might not find something you want immediately. As for the visa, there's generally a 3 - 6 month grace period to find a new job that's granted by the immigration office before you lose your status.