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> If you look at /r/politics on reddit you see the opposite problem (over-representation - nearly 100% - liberal news sources) Is this actually true? I get tha

> If you look at /r/politics on reddit you see the opposite problem (over-representation - nearly 100% - liberal news sources) Is this actually true? I get that there's usually one or two left-leaning sources on there, but more than half of the stories on /r/politics (the top 30 stories, as of 9/24 in my browser) are from centrist / conservative-leaning news sources. The real problem seems to be that the overton window has shifted so far right that "liberal" in the US means "super-hyper-conservative, but a fraction less conservative than today's GOP talking points". MSNBC, USA Today, Politico, Washington Post, Newsweek, NY Times and more are all on the front page of /r/politics right now, represent slightly more than half of the stories in the first 30 entries, and not a single one of those sources are remotely "liberal" in any way.

umvi 6y ago
Let me put is this way - of the top 30 stories as of right now (24 Sep 20) on /r/politics, regardless of source: - 20 are anti-Trump articles - 6 are pro-Biden articles - 1 is anti-Police - 1 is anti-Barrett - 2 are misc. politics (covid, etc.) Compare to the most popular articles shared on facebook mentioned by GP and you can see /r/politics is the polar opposite of facebook.
- throwaway2048 6y ago
  Anti-Trump isn't synonymous with left wing, nor is being pro-biden
- sg47 6y ago
  Pro-human, Pro-democracy, Pro-equality. Not anti-Trump but I can see how it might appear like that. :)
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > Pro-human, Pro-democracy, Pro-equality. Not anti-Trump I can't reconcile the first three statements with the fourth.
jdminhbg 6y ago
Trying to redefine the political landscape according to your niche views is really pointless. Obviously the conversation is being conducted with the understanding that the US left/right/center are the reference points. There's no more point to this comment than there would be to a libertarian saying that Facebook shares are all from "statist" news sources.
- ant6n 6y ago
  Facebook is a global platform. Within the global comparison the us Overton window is positioned very much to the right. Merkels Conservative party is left of many Democrats. Id say the Overton window has also moved to the right in the us over the last 20 years or so, openly racist and (not so) crypto-fascist attitudes weren’t so mainstream then - Facebook is probably not helping this development.
- maxsilver 6y ago
  > Obviously the conversation is being conducted with the understanding that the US left/right/center are the reference points. Right. And by US reference points, /r/politics stories news sources are generally centrist or right-leaning. The comments and commenters may not be, but the stories and sources definitely are. Even by US standards, MSNBC, USA Today, Politico, Washington Post, Newsweek, NY Times are all centrist or right-leaning news sources. And all of those have stories on the front page of /r/politics right now.
  - umvi 6y ago
    > Even by US standards, MSNBC, USA Today, Politico, Washington Post, Newsweek, NY Times are all centrist or right-leaning news sources No, I think you are just out-of-touch with US politics. Every single one of those is left-leaning by "US standards"[0]. [0] See p.5,9: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2014/10/Political-Polarization-and-Media-Habits-FINAL-REPORT-7-27-15.pdf https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2014/...

umvi 6y ago

Let me put is this way - of the top 30 stories as of right now (24 Sep 20) on /r/politics, regardless of source: - 20 are anti-Trump articles - 6 are pro-Biden articles - 1 is anti-Police - 1 is anti-Barrett - 2 are misc. politics (covid, etc.) Compare to the most popular articles shared on facebook mentioned by GP and you can see /r/politics is the polar opposite of facebook.

throwaway2048 6y ago
Anti-Trump isn't synonymous with left wing, nor is being pro-biden
sg47 6y ago
Pro-human, Pro-democracy, Pro-equality. Not anti-Trump but I can see how it might appear like that. :)
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Pro-human, Pro-democracy, Pro-equality. Not anti-Trump I can't reconcile the first three statements with the fourth.

jdminhbg 6y ago

Trying to redefine the political landscape according to your niche views is really pointless. Obviously the conversation is being conducted with the understanding that the US left/right/center are the reference points. There's no more point to this comment than there would be to a libertarian saying that Facebook shares are all from "statist" news sources.

ant6n 6y ago
Facebook is a global platform. Within the global comparison the us Overton window is positioned very much to the right. Merkels Conservative party is left of many Democrats. Id say the Overton window has also moved to the right in the us over the last 20 years or so, openly racist and (not so) crypto-fascist attitudes weren’t so mainstream then - Facebook is probably not helping this development.
maxsilver 6y ago
> Obviously the conversation is being conducted with the understanding that the US left/right/center are the reference points. Right. And by US reference points, /r/politics stories news sources are generally centrist or right-leaning. The comments and commenters may not be, but the stories and sources definitely are. Even by US standards, MSNBC, USA Today, Politico, Washington Post, Newsweek, NY Times are all centrist or right-leaning news sources. And all of those have stories on the front page of /r/politics right now.
- umvi 6y ago
  > Even by US standards, MSNBC, USA Today, Politico, Washington Post, Newsweek, NY Times are all centrist or right-leaning news sources No, I think you are just out-of-touch with US politics. Every single one of those is left-leaning by "US standards"[0]. [0] See p.5,9: https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2014/10/Political-Polarization-and-Media-Habits-FINAL-REPORT-7-27-15.pdf https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2014/...