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I completely agree. Not everyone knows, or even wants to cook 3 meals a day (me included). For people who have gotten free food through their work, it is a big

I completely agree. Not everyone knows, or even wants to cook 3 meals a day (me included). For people who have gotten free food through their work, it is a big deal. Now they either have to make stuff themselves (which costs time) or source it from outside (which costs money).

s1artibartfast 6y ago
I understand that this can be a point of dissatisfaction, but I think most people are reacting to the presumption that it is somehow the employers responsibility to address it. For most of society, the answer is obvious: Figure it out, Snacks aren't in your contract.
- linuxftw 6y ago
  In the US, we don't typically have employment contracts. Facebook was serving up 2+ meals per day. At (a modest estimate) $20/day, that works out to be about $5k per year. That's not an insignificant amount of cash to some people.
  - s1artibartfast 6y ago
    I guarantee that facebook employees have an employment contract they signed. This would cover assignment of intellectual property, moonlighting, and other topics. In the US, an employer can absolutely cut your salary by 5k/yr if it isn't in your contract. But this is all beside the point, I'm not saying that 5k isn't insignificant to people, even FANG employees. I totally understand that. Im saying that facebook can take this away at the drop of a hat with no notice. It is weird to outsiders that the employees don't seem to understand this.
    - linuxftw 6y ago
      There are often agreements made, but the employment is still at will. So there's no 'contract' for the employment itself, whereas other jurisdictions have actual contracts, and employer can't simply fire you or alter your pay outside the scope of the contract. Everyone understands that the benefits are subject to change. If management changes them and you don't prefer the changes, you speak up. Personally, I won't work somewhere that doesn't offer free coffee. If the coffee is canceled, I will start looking for another gig.
      - s1artibartfast 6y ago
        Would you leave a $600k job, like a E6 at FB, if it didn't offer free coffee
        linuxftw 6y ago
        If I could find another job for the same money, yes.
8duvagilaji 6y ago
But they no longer have to commute to work (which costs time, or which costs money). They could use that time or money to learn the joys of cooking tasty food, tasty food being one of the few things people of all walks and persuasions can agree is a joyful thing. But they perhaps instead choose to use their free time to play grindy addictive video games, or binge watch Netflix, or consume cannabis, or rage-read political newsfeeds, or get mired in political threads on HN. Why take up music or cooking or reading good books with good friends and why find joy and peace and purpose in life when you can instead wallow in a web-cesspool?

s1artibartfast 6y ago

I understand that this can be a point of dissatisfaction, but I think most people are reacting to the presumption that it is somehow the employers responsibility to address it. For most of society, the answer is obvious: Figure it out, Snacks aren't in your contract.

linuxftw 6y ago
In the US, we don't typically have employment contracts. Facebook was serving up 2+ meals per day. At (a modest estimate) $20/day, that works out to be about $5k per year. That's not an insignificant amount of cash to some people.
- s1artibartfast 6y ago
  I guarantee that facebook employees have an employment contract they signed. This would cover assignment of intellectual property, moonlighting, and other topics. In the US, an employer can absolutely cut your salary by 5k/yr if it isn't in your contract. But this is all beside the point, I'm not saying that 5k isn't insignificant to people, even FANG employees. I totally understand that. Im saying that facebook can take this away at the drop of a hat with no notice. It is weird to outsiders that the employees don't seem to understand this.
  - linuxftw 6y ago
    There are often agreements made, but the employment is still at will. So there's no 'contract' for the employment itself, whereas other jurisdictions have actual contracts, and employer can't simply fire you or alter your pay outside the scope of the contract. Everyone understands that the benefits are subject to change. If management changes them and you don't prefer the changes, you speak up. Personally, I won't work somewhere that doesn't offer free coffee. If the coffee is canceled, I will start looking for another gig.
    - s1artibartfast 6y ago
      Would you leave a $600k job, like a E6 at FB, if it didn't offer free coffee
      - linuxftw 6y ago
        If I could find another job for the same money, yes.

8duvagilaji 6y ago

But they no longer have to commute to work (which costs time, or which costs money). They could use that time or money to learn the joys of cooking tasty food, tasty food being one of the few things people of all walks and persuasions can agree is a joyful thing. But they perhaps instead choose to use their free time to play grindy addictive video games, or binge watch Netflix, or consume cannabis, or rage-read political newsfeeds, or get mired in political threads on HN. Why take up music or cooking or reading good books with good friends and why find joy and peace and purpose in life when you can instead wallow in a web-cesspool?