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>acknowledging that it isn't their role to bring politics into the workplace. This is very hard for me to square with Facebook. It's like working at the NY Tim

>acknowledging that it isn't their role to bring politics into the workplace. This is very hard for me to square with Facebook. It's like working at the NY Times and saying "no politics in the work place." Almost any decision FB makes is by definition political. The top 10 most interacted pages on Facebook are political. COVID-19, in the US, is political. It doesn't strike me as mature, it's deceitful. It's very easy to claim things are non-political when the outcomes do not affect you at all.

jjice 6y ago
> Almost any decision FB makes is by definition political. The top 10 most interacted pages on Facebook are political. COVID-19, in the US, is political. While this makes sense and I agree with you, I still think that some dev ops employee shouldn't be forced to engage in political debate because their company is politically involved. While the company may be, there are many positions that can be politically agnostic to the company. Provisioning servers or working on internal work flows shouldn't require my political engagement.
- zbentley 6y ago
  > Provisioning servers or working on internal work flows shouldn't require my political engagement I think GP's point, which I agree with, is that your proverbial devops person already is acting politically by racking those servers in service (ha) to a political entity (a corporation which affects the lives and tendencies of the body politic). There's no way for most folks to opt out of actions having political consequences, due to the interconnected nature of the world we live in.
- mrguyorama 6y ago
  Nobody is forcing Joe Blow devops to work at Facebook and get very well compensated. Sometimes you need to face the morals of what you are doing
shadowgovt 6y ago
The notion that a medium can be above politics is, itself, a political opinion. The antithesis is "The medium is the message."

jjice 6y ago

> Almost any decision FB makes is by definition political. The top 10 most interacted pages on Facebook are political. COVID-19, in the US, is political. While this makes sense and I agree with you, I still think that some dev ops employee shouldn't be forced to engage in political debate because their company is politically involved. While the company may be, there are many positions that can be politically agnostic to the company. Provisioning servers or working on internal work flows shouldn't require my political engagement.

zbentley 6y ago
> Provisioning servers or working on internal work flows shouldn't require my political engagement I think GP's point, which I agree with, is that your proverbial devops person already is acting politically by racking those servers in service (ha) to a political entity (a corporation which affects the lives and tendencies of the body politic). There's no way for most folks to opt out of actions having political consequences, due to the interconnected nature of the world we live in.
mrguyorama 6y ago
Nobody is forcing Joe Blow devops to work at Facebook and get very well compensated. Sometimes you need to face the morals of what you are doing

shadowgovt 6y ago

The notion that a medium can be above politics is, itself, a political opinion. The antithesis is "The medium is the message."