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Jio is the greatest thing that has happened for rural India in the past two decades. >The sad thing is they have deep ties with the current Govt, meaning no an

Jio is the greatest thing that has happened for rural India in the past two decades. >The sad thing is they have deep ties with the current Govt, meaning no anti-monopoly action against them will ever be initiated against them. The only reason there is a Jio "monopoly" is because the alternatives suck outside the urban cores of India's biggest cities. >and blatantly copy other competing apps (whatsapp and zoom were the biggest thing they copied) What is wrong with "copying" app ideas and concepts? I am happy that there is an Indian alternative to Zoom for business and government meetings. Just a few months ago Indian military officials were caught using Zoom to videoconference. They didn't know about Zoom's deep ties to the Chinese government.

DarthGhandi 6y ago
> the alternatives suck outside the urban cores of India's biggest cities Any advice for someone wanting to start an ISP in India? How difficult is such an endeavor?
- arunkd13 6y ago
  Have been thinking of the same thing. Our PM talks about how he had decentralised pakora making. Hope he does the same thing for ISPs.
  - geodel 6y ago
    ISP -> Internet Served Pakoras?
motabhai 6y ago
The didnt copy the concept. They literally copied the app. In design, screenshots, etc. They copied whatsapp and removed the encryption so they can read the chats. They copied zoom's exact design and launched Jio Meet. Like even the fucking colours. https://old.reddit.com/r/india/comments/hke4m5/jiomeet_hey_zoom_can_i_copy_your_homework_ill_be/ https://old.reddit.com/r/india/comments/hke4m5/jiomeet_hey_z... https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/zoom-may-take-legal-action-against-jiomeet-for-copying-ui/ar-BB16wgH8 https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/zoom-may-take-legal-act...
- slezyr 6y ago
  Colors? They even copied the date on the calendar's icon. https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*GqNHPZ1DErlPPvciO21s9Q.jpeg https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*GqNHPZ1DErlPPvciO21s9Q.jp...
- hesarenu 6y ago
  Copying whatsapp/zoom is an easy thing. Its not cntrl+c and cntrl+v. You need infrastructure, competent de to back it up.
  - JackFr 6y ago
    It's funny actually -- twice I've been at big investment banks, where a trader/analyst has come on from another place and brought screen shots with him from his old job. "This is what I want, and I assume you guys are competent to create it." I think it kind of skirts the line on IP, because none of the ideas are completely novel, and the implementation is from scratch. But sometimes knowing what to build is harder than knowing how to.
    - fancyfredbot 6y ago
      I've seen this too. I used to think it was surprising. But now I realize it must have happened so many times at all the major banks that even if one of them thought they could sue another and win they would be opening the floodgates to an unknown number of counter-suits. So I think that's why everyone quietly ignores it.
  - blocked_again 6y ago
    They are using a third party backend as infrastructure for FFS. https://mobile.twitter.com/r0h1n/status/1279291492125880321 https://mobile.twitter.com/r0h1n/status/1279291492125880321
- sbmthakur 6y ago
  Seems like they wanted to capture the market as quickly as possible. Considering that they have a million-plus downloads on the Play store, it seems that the gamble somewhat did work.

DarthGhandi 6y ago

> the alternatives suck outside the urban cores of India's biggest cities Any advice for someone wanting to start an ISP in India? How difficult is such an endeavor?

arunkd13 6y ago
Have been thinking of the same thing. Our PM talks about how he had decentralised pakora making. Hope he does the same thing for ISPs.
- geodel 6y ago
  ISP -> Internet Served Pakoras?

motabhai 6y ago

The didnt copy the concept. They literally copied the app. In design, screenshots, etc. They copied whatsapp and removed the encryption so they can read the chats. They copied zoom's exact design and launched Jio Meet. Like even the fucking colours. https://old.reddit.com/r/india/comments/hke4m5/jiomeet_hey_zoom_can_i_copy_your_homework_ill_be/ https://old.reddit.com/r/india/comments/hke4m5/jiomeet_hey_z... https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/zoom-may-take-legal-action-against-jiomeet-for-copying-ui/ar-BB16wgH8 https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/other/zoom-may-take-legal-act...

slezyr 6y ago
Colors? They even copied the date on the calendar's icon. https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*GqNHPZ1DErlPPvciO21s9Q.jpeg https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*GqNHPZ1DErlPPvciO21s9Q.jp...
hesarenu 6y ago
Copying whatsapp/zoom is an easy thing. Its not cntrl+c and cntrl+v. You need infrastructure, competent de to back it up.
- JackFr 6y ago
  It's funny actually -- twice I've been at big investment banks, where a trader/analyst has come on from another place and brought screen shots with him from his old job. "This is what I want, and I assume you guys are competent to create it." I think it kind of skirts the line on IP, because none of the ideas are completely novel, and the implementation is from scratch. But sometimes knowing what to build is harder than knowing how to.
  - fancyfredbot 6y ago
    I've seen this too. I used to think it was surprising. But now I realize it must have happened so many times at all the major banks that even if one of them thought they could sue another and win they would be opening the floodgates to an unknown number of counter-suits. So I think that's why everyone quietly ignores it.
- blocked_again 6y ago
  They are using a third party backend as infrastructure for FFS. https://mobile.twitter.com/r0h1n/status/1279291492125880321 https://mobile.twitter.com/r0h1n/status/1279291492125880321
sbmthakur 6y ago
Seems like they wanted to capture the market as quickly as possible. Considering that they have a million-plus downloads on the Play store, it seems that the gamble somewhat did work.