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Website's broken on my Firefox, won't scroll.

• nguyenkien 6y ago
  Same problem on Edge chromium.
  • dhagz 6y ago
    If you're not auto-accepting cookies, then the site won't let you scroll/do anything until you accept them.
• Aissen 6y ago
  Probably the cookie popup blocked by UBO preventing scrolling. Irony: you can't read the cookie policy without accepting it first.
  • gbil 6y ago
    Exactly. Which for me is a reason - no matter how much I hate Apple's tactics- to dismiss also this counter action. All of these entities just don't care for the users one way or the other
    • _qulr 6y ago
      Yes, I was thinking of joining, but the fact that the site didn't work without turning off my ad blocker was a turnoff. Why do they even need cookies? Terrible first impression.
      • danShumway 6y ago
        The amount of blindness I'm seeing from companies on both sides of this fight about how to handle their optics is kind of staggering. One of Apple's core arguments for why they need this kind of control is privacy. If someone is launching what is essentially a PR campaign against Apple, one of the first things to do is to make sure the website doesn't have any appearance of violating people's privacy. Make it work without JS, make it work without cookies. Be conscious of the target audience. Requiring cookies is a really tone-deaf decision for them to make.
        • yazaddaruvala 6y ago
          This. The problem is regardless of it being either side of Hanlon's razor, malice or stupidity, I have built trust with Apple and prefer the centralized Apple (over the decentralized dev-houses of the world) to do its best to ensure neither malice nor stupidity in the product I use most throughout the day.
          • _qulr 6y ago
            > I have built trust with Apple and prefer the centralized Apple (over the decentralized dev-houses of the world) IMO this is a false dichotomy. Epic and Spotify are not the size of Apple, but they're still giants compared to little indie developers. I trust indie devs way more than any of the BigCos. It's just natural: the fewer customers you have, and the less market power you have, the more you care, the more you have to care, about your individual customers.
            • yazaddaruvala 6y ago
              I appreciate this sentiment, but I've lived through too many of these transitions to agree. e.g. Blizzard, Google, YouTube, Curse, Sun Microsystems, Zynga, Minecraft, Occulus. Indie developers / startups either become the size of Epic and Spotify, or get bought by companies the size of Epic, Spotify and Apple. Find me the indie developers / startups that cannot be "corrupted" (converted?) and I'll invest as soon as they IPO. Meanwhile, there are some companies that make it their business model to build trust at scale. Apple, Valve, Nintendo, Microsoft (exclusively for enterprise clients) are a few great examples.
              • _qulr 6y ago
                Why do you conflate indie developers with startups? They're entirely different.
                • yazaddaruvala 6y ago
                  For me they are both: Small groups of people passionately working towards a unique vision, typically under-funded to address a niche that is under-represented / under-invested by "the incumbents". I'd be happy to view them differently. I just haven't been educated on the differences.
  • mandelbrotwurst 6y ago
    The "Cookie Policy" text on that element links to it.
    • Aissen 6y ago
      Yes, and then the page has the exact same overlay and scroll prevention, preventing reading the full policy (and obscuring the top of the page).
• NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  Works fine on 3 different versions of Firefox.