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We eat meat as part of our diet. So saying 'animals are the problem' is like saying 'human existence' is part of the problem. We ate meat before, we can conti

by jariel 6y ago

We eat meat as part of our diet. So saying 'animals are the problem' is like saying 'human existence' is part of the problem. We ate meat before, we can continue to eat meat. What we need to do is fix the carbon problem, and possibly the 'too many people' problem.

slothtrop 6y ago
> 'human existence' is part of the problem. That's where I'd place it in the long-run. More people means more destruction of land and environment, regardless of increases in efficiency.
marcusjt 6y ago
“All our environmental problems become easier to solve with fewer people and harder — and ultimately impossible — to solve with ever more people.” "I support Population Matters because I think if we keep on growing, we’re not only going to damage nature, but we’re likely to see more and more inequality and human suffering." “One thing you can say is that in places where women are in charge of their bodies, where they have the vote, where they are allowed to dictate what they do and what they want, whether it’s proper medical facilities for birth control, the birth rate falls.” “The human population can no longer be allowed to grow in the same old uncontrolled way. If we do not take charge of our population size, then nature will do it for us.” “As I see it, humanity needs to reduce its impact on the Earth urgently and there are three ways to achieve this: we can stop consuming so many resources, we can change our technology and we can reduce the growth of our population.” "Instead of controlling the environment for the benefit of the population, perhaps it's time we controlled the population to allow the survival of the environment." - Sir David Attenborough, naturalist and broadcaster, Population Matters Patron (born 1926) From https://populationmatters.org/quotes https://populationmatters.org/quotes

by jariel 6y ago

slothtrop 6y ago

> 'human existence' is part of the problem. That's where I'd place it in the long-run. More people means more destruction of land and environment, regardless of increases in efficiency.

marcusjt 6y ago

“All our environmental problems become easier to solve with fewer people and harder — and ultimately impossible — to solve with ever more people.” "I support Population Matters because I think if we keep on growing, we’re not only going to damage nature, but we’re likely to see more and more inequality and human suffering." “One thing you can say is that in places where women are in charge of their bodies, where they have the vote, where they are allowed to dictate what they do and what they want, whether it’s proper medical facilities for birth control, the birth rate falls.” “The human population can no longer be allowed to grow in the same old uncontrolled way. If we do not take charge of our population size, then nature will do it for us.” “As I see it, humanity needs to reduce its impact on the Earth urgently and there are three ways to achieve this: we can stop consuming so many resources, we can change our technology and we can reduce the growth of our population.” "Instead of controlling the environment for the benefit of the population, perhaps it's time we controlled the population to allow the survival of the environment." - Sir David Attenborough, naturalist and broadcaster, Population Matters Patron (born 1926) From https://populationmatters.org/quotes https://populationmatters.org/quotes