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> And the hubs became less relevant Dubai is the 4th busiest airport in the world Atlanta is the busiest, don't tell me people want to go to Atlanta. If I fl

> And the hubs became less relevant Dubai is the 4th busiest airport in the world Atlanta is the busiest, don't tell me people want to go to Atlanta. If I fly Manchester to Singapore, I can either fly on a 90 minute narrow shorthaul flight to Heathrow then spend 15 hours on a tired BA plane departing evening, arriving the next evening, or I have a choice of multiple departures on Qatar and Emirates, with two 8 hour flights. Same amount of hassle, but works far better for jetlag. Now if I'm flying UK to South Africa, and there's little time change, then sure I want an overnight 12 hour flight where I can get a good 9 hour sleep in addition to dinner and breakfast. Not many routes like that (10+ hours, overnight, sub-3 hour time difference).

madeofpalk 6y ago
> 15 hours on a tired BA plane departing evening, arriving the next evening I mean there's a number of other airlines you could fly on - Singapore Air, or Qantas (I'm pretty sure they offered that as a fifth freedom flight)
- iso1631 6y ago
  Not from Manchester (actually I think there was a flight on Singapore, but you still had to fly via Frankfurt), that's the point. Sure you can fly on Singapore and (used to Qantas) from Heathrow, that's a hub to hub flight, and both are/were on A380s. Fly from Dublin to Singapore you're going via a hub -- Healthrow, Frankfurt, Dubai, doesn't matter. Fly from Delhi to Manchester you're going via a hub Fly from Edinburgh to Muscat you're going via a hub The 787 and A350 perform well for gulf carriers in flying to places like Edinburgh, where Emirates I think were doing 2 flights a day. The A380 doesn't work for these region-hub airports, but we still have Spoke-Hub-Spoke on long haul, and will for the forseeable. What we don't have (much) is Spoke-Hub-Hub-Spoke, as the 787 and A350 have made it more economic to serve long haul spokes from a single hub.
  - madeofpalk 6y ago
    sorry, i just meant from heathrow. it was a "well actually" that didnt actually contribute anything of value, now that i look back on it.

madeofpalk 6y ago

> 15 hours on a tired BA plane departing evening, arriving the next evening I mean there's a number of other airlines you could fly on - Singapore Air, or Qantas (I'm pretty sure they offered that as a fifth freedom flight)

iso1631 6y ago
Not from Manchester (actually I think there was a flight on Singapore, but you still had to fly via Frankfurt), that's the point. Sure you can fly on Singapore and (used to Qantas) from Heathrow, that's a hub to hub flight, and both are/were on A380s. Fly from Dublin to Singapore you're going via a hub -- Healthrow, Frankfurt, Dubai, doesn't matter. Fly from Delhi to Manchester you're going via a hub Fly from Edinburgh to Muscat you're going via a hub The 787 and A350 perform well for gulf carriers in flying to places like Edinburgh, where Emirates I think were doing 2 flights a day. The A380 doesn't work for these region-hub airports, but we still have Spoke-Hub-Spoke on long haul, and will for the forseeable. What we don't have (much) is Spoke-Hub-Hub-Spoke, as the 787 and A350 have made it more economic to serve long haul spokes from a single hub.
- madeofpalk 6y ago
  sorry, i just meant from heathrow. it was a "well actually" that didnt actually contribute anything of value, now that i look back on it.