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What is a "statistically high crime demographic"? Men? It's men, right? Statistically speaking the vast majority of violent crime is committed by men [0]. [0]

What is a "statistically high crime demographic"? Men? It's men, right? Statistically speaking the vast majority of violent crime is committed by men [0]. [0] https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/42tabledatadecoverviewpdf/table_42_arrests_by_sex_2012.xls https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-...

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
>What is a "statistically high crime demographic"? Young black men This is drilled into the head of every cop before they leave the academy.
- charlesu 6y ago
  Interesting. According the FBI data in my previous reply, white men are far more likely to be driving drunk, statistically speaking. I guess we should teach cops to pull them over far more often than everyone else, right? That would be a similarly logical conclusion based on the statistics.
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    I'm not sure if you're being intentionally obtuse but I have my suspicions. Blacks are convicted of violent crimes at far higher rates than whites. I will not postulate on how much of that conviction rate is a self fulfilling prophecy on the part of the police (much has been written about this possibility by people far more qualified than me) but the practical effect is that the police do not extend the benefit of the doubt to black people, particularly young black men, nearly as readily as they do for other demographics and this extends to all contexts which is a problem for black men who are trying to exercise a right that (in some jurisdictions) police are the gate keepers of.
Spivak 6y ago
I think it's hilarious that you're downvoted so heavily for this when it's the exact same logic that's used against young black men. If you look at these statics and think to yourself, "the fact that 87% of murders, 99% of forced rapes, and 77% of assaults are committed by men is terribly misleading because as a category it doesn't make sense to lump all men together when they're so different" then why the hell does "black men" make any more sense?

throwaway0a5e 6y ago

>What is a "statistically high crime demographic"? Young black men This is drilled into the head of every cop before they leave the academy.

charlesu 6y ago
Interesting. According the FBI data in my previous reply, white men are far more likely to be driving drunk, statistically speaking. I guess we should teach cops to pull them over far more often than everyone else, right? That would be a similarly logical conclusion based on the statistics.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  I'm not sure if you're being intentionally obtuse but I have my suspicions. Blacks are convicted of violent crimes at far higher rates than whites. I will not postulate on how much of that conviction rate is a self fulfilling prophecy on the part of the police (much has been written about this possibility by people far more qualified than me) but the practical effect is that the police do not extend the benefit of the doubt to black people, particularly young black men, nearly as readily as they do for other demographics and this extends to all contexts which is a problem for black men who are trying to exercise a right that (in some jurisdictions) police are the gate keepers of.

Spivak 6y ago

I think it's hilarious that you're downvoted so heavily for this when it's the exact same logic that's used against young black men. If you look at these statics and think to yourself, "the fact that 87% of murders, 99% of forced rapes, and 77% of assaults are committed by men is terribly misleading because as a category it doesn't make sense to lump all men together when they're so different" then why the hell does "black men" make any more sense?