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I have difficulty imagining this level of international news attention being brought to any other anonymous online social media account. Are there any unverifi

by vnchr 6y ago

I have difficulty imagining this level of international news attention being brought to any other anonymous online social media account. Are there any unverified Twitter or Facebook accounts that have merited such broad examination?

me_me_me 6y ago
This is not some random guy posting, as a result of their 'leaks' people did dangerous things. It not something to underestimate since the Q speaks in riddles and doesn't give directions the movement is prone to fall into extremism - the most vocal outrageous theories gain the biggest popularity - a cult without leader, makes it quite volatile. Like the whole pizzagate debacle and morons storming in with guns. Consider this, people love conspiracy theories. We all consider one or another to some degree. Its something that we are primed to be interested in. Now some people are really hooked on that. To the point that they create whole communities that are convinced earth is flat. We were all laughing at the 'trolls' role-playing flat-earth society for laugh. Surely its a big joke. Now we have conventions book and Netflix documentary about theory that was disproved by ancient Greeks. Qanon seems like its a powder keg ready to explode in some time.
- vnchr 6y ago
  Still, there really is quite a lot of media attention for some unverified anonymous social media account. ”If we have confidence in our own beliefs, we should not fear freedom of thought.” (Bill Vaughan) Seems like it’s the sort of thing that would die on its own without validation. Is the attention of news organizations like Der Spiegel providing some kind of validation for the account owner to his followers?
  - krapp 6y ago
    The attention of the President of the United States and his party are providing that validation. Trump has all but explicitly voiced support for QAnon[0,1] and he and his staff retweet their content and use their memes. Various other Republican organizations also appear to be embracing QAnon[2]. The press has to pay attention to QAnon because it is becoming the mainstream doctrine of the political party in control of the world's last superpower. It matters that global economic and military policy is going to be guided by people who believe the world is secretly run by a conspiracy of satanic pedophile leftists and who trust an anonymous 4chan poster to be speaking the word of God. FFS just look at what happened when the neo-cons and Christian Dominionists were in charge. [0]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/trump-qanon-conspiracy-theories.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/trump-qanon-c... [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Responses_by_Donald_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Responses_by_Donald_Trum... [2]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/us/politics/qanon-trump-republicans.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/us/politics/qanon-trump-r...
  - me_me_me 6y ago
    Looking at it rationally (coldly). You are not trying to convince the cult member they are irrational - this is lost cause at this stage. You are trying to paint a picture to everyone that might be susceptible to falling it in a hope that they will heed your warning. My mum started listening to online masses - she was religious but now she is taking it up a notch but worse. She is subscribed to some fortuneteller/psycic youtuber. And it seems she is starting to take it somewhat seriously. And that concerns me greatly.
- tzs 6y ago
  > We were all laughing at the 'trolls' role-playing flat-earth society for laugh. Surely its a big joke. Now we have conventions book and Netflix documentary about theory that was disproved by ancient Greeks. ...and some of those conventions have enough attendees that if they took one evening during the convention, chartered some buses, and had those buses drop people off approximately evenly spaced along the major roads out of the convention city so that they had people evenly spaced 300 miles in each direction from the city, and then they took synchronized measurements of the angle between several agreed upon stars and the zenith, then returned to the convention, they would have sufficient data show that the observers are on a curved surface, and to find the shape and curvature of the part they were on.
  - syspec 6y ago
    In the Netflix doc they disproved it themselves (involving a laser gyroscope), and what happened next was the most interesting part. The flat-earth people tried to explain away the result, and dismissed it

by vnchr 6y ago

me_me_me 6y ago

This is not some random guy posting, as a result of their 'leaks' people did dangerous things. It not something to underestimate since the Q speaks in riddles and doesn't give directions the movement is prone to fall into extremism - the most vocal outrageous theories gain the biggest popularity - a cult without leader, makes it quite volatile. Like the whole pizzagate debacle and morons storming in with guns. Consider this, people love conspiracy theories. We all consider one or another to some degree. Its something that we are primed to be interested in. Now some people are really hooked on that. To the point that they create whole communities that are convinced earth is flat. We were all laughing at the 'trolls' role-playing flat-earth society for laugh. Surely its a big joke. Now we have conventions book and Netflix documentary about theory that was disproved by ancient Greeks. Qanon seems like its a powder keg ready to explode in some time.

vnchr 6y ago
Still, there really is quite a lot of media attention for some unverified anonymous social media account. ”If we have confidence in our own beliefs, we should not fear freedom of thought.” (Bill Vaughan) Seems like it’s the sort of thing that would die on its own without validation. Is the attention of news organizations like Der Spiegel providing some kind of validation for the account owner to his followers?
- krapp 6y ago
  The attention of the President of the United States and his party are providing that validation. Trump has all but explicitly voiced support for QAnon[0,1] and he and his staff retweet their content and use their memes. Various other Republican organizations also appear to be embracing QAnon[2]. The press has to pay attention to QAnon because it is becoming the mainstream doctrine of the political party in control of the world's last superpower. It matters that global economic and military policy is going to be guided by people who believe the world is secretly run by a conspiracy of satanic pedophile leftists and who trust an anonymous 4chan poster to be speaking the word of God. FFS just look at what happened when the neo-cons and Christian Dominionists were in charge. [0]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/trump-qanon-conspiracy-theories.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/us/politics/trump-qanon-c... [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Responses_by_Donald_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon#Responses_by_Donald_Trum... [2]https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/us/politics/qanon-trump-republicans.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/20/us/politics/qanon-trump-r...
- me_me_me 6y ago
  Looking at it rationally (coldly). You are not trying to convince the cult member they are irrational - this is lost cause at this stage. You are trying to paint a picture to everyone that might be susceptible to falling it in a hope that they will heed your warning. My mum started listening to online masses - she was religious but now she is taking it up a notch but worse. She is subscribed to some fortuneteller/psycic youtuber. And it seems she is starting to take it somewhat seriously. And that concerns me greatly.
tzs 6y ago
> We were all laughing at the 'trolls' role-playing flat-earth society for laugh. Surely its a big joke. Now we have conventions book and Netflix documentary about theory that was disproved by ancient Greeks. ...and some of those conventions have enough attendees that if they took one evening during the convention, chartered some buses, and had those buses drop people off approximately evenly spaced along the major roads out of the convention city so that they had people evenly spaced 300 miles in each direction from the city, and then they took synchronized measurements of the angle between several agreed upon stars and the zenith, then returned to the convention, they would have sufficient data show that the observers are on a curved surface, and to find the shape and curvature of the part they were on.
- syspec 6y ago
  In the Netflix doc they disproved it themselves (involving a laser gyroscope), and what happened next was the most interesting part. The flat-earth people tried to explain away the result, and dismissed it