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I don't doubt conservatives feel like liberals believe in nothing but power, and I'm sure the left has a few marks against it on that count. But I'd appreciate

I don't doubt conservatives feel like liberals believe in nothing but power, and I'm sure the left has a few marks against it on that count. But I'd appreciate a few examples of them behaving in such a manner as knowingly lying about how deadly a disease is and then having large crowded in door events shortly afterwards[0]. It's easy to manufacture a narative that has the left drinking the blood of babies, but how much support is there for some large scale malicious thing? https://www.npr.org/2020/09/09/911109247/trump-admitted-to-playing-down-the-coronaviruss-severity-per-new-book https://www.npr.org/2020/09/09/911109247/trump-admitted-to-p...

scottlocklin 6y ago
>I'd appreciate a few examples of them behaving in such a manner as knowingly lying about how deadly a disease is and then having large crowded .... Lol are you shitting me? Didn't you notice the mobs of leftist chuckleheads, erm, I mean "anti-racism activists" burning the cities down over the last couple of months, complete with excuses for why it's not REALLY a covid transmission problem, and, like business owners have insurance so it's not REALLY destroying livelihoods and property; where Trump rallies or jaunts to the beach or going to the hairdresser or a sit-down restaurant totally are covid transmission death cesspits you evil racist bigots[0]. There are hundreds of articles, thousands of memes making fun of what is obviously a completely ridiculous pair of ideas to hold in one brain, but which left leaning people in America seem universally to self-seriously hold. The fact of the matter is, the right was more correct than the left when it comes to Covid; it's mostly a nothingburger unless you're over 70. Even the CDC says so at this point[1]. Of course, other than people like Ioannidis, they were correct via instinct rather than statistics. That's kind of the point of conservatism. It's a basket of prejudices with known survival advantage. [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-evaluate-coronavirus-risks-from-black-lives-matter-protests/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-evaluate-c... [1]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena... Death rates (mind you, among lardy diabetic americans): 0-19 years: 0.00003 20-49 years: 0.0002 50-69 years: 0.005 70+ years: 0.054
- chownie 6y ago
  Why did you ellipse before the word "indoors"? > The fact of the matter is, the right was more correct than the left when it comes to Covid; it's mostly a nothingburger unless you're over 70. Even the CDC says so at this point[0]. This is assuming that the only negative outcome of COVID is death, but that isn't the case. People come out of COVID with long term health complications such as lung scarring which may affect them for the rest of their lives. We don't have good data on the rates of injury in those who recover yet.
  - scottlocklin 6y ago
    Yeah, you know what; the flu has long term health complications as well. Ask me how I know this: I got the flu in 2014 and still have health complications from it -probably will until I eventually drop dead. It's a bummer, but that's life. I also don't demand we shut down civilization and destroy the economic lives and mental health of hundreds of millions to prevent spread of the flu, though it would have been nice if the plague doctor sitting next to me on the airliner didn't sneeze on my eyeball. The "long term health complications" thing is, until someone comes up with an actual count rather than terror scare stories in trash news, mostly a figment of people's lurid imaginations. Just like the early reports of world-ending infection fatality rates.
- wolfram74 6y ago
  To be clear, are you arguing that malfeasance in the highest elected offices in the land is excusable because the oppositions protests aren't 100% peaceful?

scottlocklin 6y ago

>I'd appreciate a few examples of them behaving in such a manner as knowingly lying about how deadly a disease is and then having large crowded .... Lol are you shitting me? Didn't you notice the mobs of leftist chuckleheads, erm, I mean "anti-racism activists" burning the cities down over the last couple of months, complete with excuses for why it's not REALLY a covid transmission problem, and, like business owners have insurance so it's not REALLY destroying livelihoods and property; where Trump rallies or jaunts to the beach or going to the hairdresser or a sit-down restaurant totally are covid transmission death cesspits you evil racist bigots[0]. There are hundreds of articles, thousands of memes making fun of what is obviously a completely ridiculous pair of ideas to hold in one brain, but which left leaning people in America seem universally to self-seriously hold. The fact of the matter is, the right was more correct than the left when it comes to Covid; it's mostly a nothingburger unless you're over 70. Even the CDC says so at this point[1]. Of course, other than people like Ioannidis, they were correct via instinct rather than statistics. That's kind of the point of conservatism. It's a basket of prejudices with known survival advantage. [0] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-evaluate-coronavirus-risks-from-black-lives-matter-protests/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-evaluate-c... [1]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scena... Death rates (mind you, among lardy diabetic americans): 0-19 years: 0.00003 20-49 years: 0.0002 50-69 years: 0.005 70+ years: 0.054

chownie 6y ago
Why did you ellipse before the word "indoors"? > The fact of the matter is, the right was more correct than the left when it comes to Covid; it's mostly a nothingburger unless you're over 70. Even the CDC says so at this point[0]. This is assuming that the only negative outcome of COVID is death, but that isn't the case. People come out of COVID with long term health complications such as lung scarring which may affect them for the rest of their lives. We don't have good data on the rates of injury in those who recover yet.
- scottlocklin 6y ago
  Yeah, you know what; the flu has long term health complications as well. Ask me how I know this: I got the flu in 2014 and still have health complications from it -probably will until I eventually drop dead. It's a bummer, but that's life. I also don't demand we shut down civilization and destroy the economic lives and mental health of hundreds of millions to prevent spread of the flu, though it would have been nice if the plague doctor sitting next to me on the airliner didn't sneeze on my eyeball. The "long term health complications" thing is, until someone comes up with an actual count rather than terror scare stories in trash news, mostly a figment of people's lurid imaginations. Just like the early reports of world-ending infection fatality rates.
wolfram74 6y ago
To be clear, are you arguing that malfeasance in the highest elected offices in the land is excusable because the oppositions protests aren't 100% peaceful?