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> Mark Zuckerberg has faced criticism that Facebook is bad for democracy. > Employees want him to take a harder line against the Trump Administration. They em

> Mark Zuckerberg has faced criticism that Facebook is bad for democracy. > Employees want him to take a harder line against the Trump Administration. They employees want to support democracy by taking a stand against the democratic chosen president. I have a hard time coming up with words to describe my disbelief. Guess it's time for companies to enforce "absolutely no politics at work" rules. And you can add religion and sexuality to the blacklist as well. Guess old days "professionalism" was not without reason. 20 year old me would utterly despise current me. I find it funny.

Thlom 6y ago
Talking about undemocratic ...
ForHackernews 6y ago
C'mon, if the concept of "democracy" means anything it has to include the notion that the guy who won the last election doesn't get to just do whatever he wants (especially if what he wants is to undermine or tamper with the next election!) You're not a democracy because you hold one legitimate election -- you have to keep on having fair elections! Good luck, America.
- cwhiz 6y ago
  The US doesn’t have a democracy. And there is almost nothing to prevent Donald Trump from staying in office if he loses the election. Edit: At the federal level, the United States is unequivocally not a democracy. The United States, overall, is a Constitutional Federal Republic with some Democratic traditions and processes at the state and local levels. US citizens do not directly elect the Presidency. The US method for electing a President is extraordinarily undemocratic. And if you disagree about Donald Trump staying in office please read this article. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-if-trump-loses-and-wont-leave/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-if-trump-loses-and... If Donald Trump loses the election, Republicans retain the Senate, Trump decides the election was a fraud, and Senate Republicans go along with him, there is absolutely fuck all that Biden could do.
- loxs 6y ago
  This is one of the many internal paradoxes of democracy that makes it extremely fragile (in the grand scheme of things) and unlikely to survive for a very long time.
- SuoDuanDao 6y ago
  But having the same ability to lie unhindered as everyone else is not tampering with the election. Enforcing the rules for only one side is taking a side, rewriting them in response to one side's activities even more so.
JakeTheAndroid 6y ago
While the President himself may have been chosen democratically, there is a reasonable position one can hold that says his actions in office are not democratic. And THOSE are not democratically chosen. We don't have to vote as a group on every word or policy Trump wants to pass. We don't get to vote against him blocking access to relevant people required to finish a DoJ investigation. So, if their objection was that Facebook should alter the results of the election, yes that would be crazy. But thats not the perspective afaik. You're throwing out basically all the actual context just to post this fairly narrow and worthless sentence that misses what they are actually protesting. How many lies or simply misleading information has come out of Trumps admin and by extension the news sites/commentators that are widely shared as fact on Facebook? It seems reasonable that people working on the platform aren't super stoked they are contributing to poor COVID responses and fake/deadly "cures" among the myriad of other pieces of misinformation spread across the platform which heavily leans towards Trump. So...yeah I think you're appropriating what they are saying so you can say something entirely unrelated.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > While the President himself may have been chosen democratically The President was chosen lawfully, in an outcome which sits in the space where the lawful process produces results at odds with democratic norms.

Thlom 6y ago

Talking about undemocratic ...

ForHackernews 6y ago

C'mon, if the concept of "democracy" means anything it has to include the notion that the guy who won the last election doesn't get to just do whatever he wants (especially if what he wants is to undermine or tamper with the next election!) You're not a democracy because you hold one legitimate election -- you have to keep on having fair elections! Good luck, America.

cwhiz 6y ago
The US doesn’t have a democracy. And there is almost nothing to prevent Donald Trump from staying in office if he loses the election. Edit: At the federal level, the United States is unequivocally not a democracy. The United States, overall, is a Constitutional Federal Republic with some Democratic traditions and processes at the state and local levels. US citizens do not directly elect the Presidency. The US method for electing a President is extraordinarily undemocratic. And if you disagree about Donald Trump staying in office please read this article. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-if-trump-loses-and-wont-leave/ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-if-trump-loses-and... If Donald Trump loses the election, Republicans retain the Senate, Trump decides the election was a fraud, and Senate Republicans go along with him, there is absolutely fuck all that Biden could do.
loxs 6y ago
This is one of the many internal paradoxes of democracy that makes it extremely fragile (in the grand scheme of things) and unlikely to survive for a very long time.
SuoDuanDao 6y ago
But having the same ability to lie unhindered as everyone else is not tampering with the election. Enforcing the rules for only one side is taking a side, rewriting them in response to one side's activities even more so.

JakeTheAndroid 6y ago

While the President himself may have been chosen democratically, there is a reasonable position one can hold that says his actions in office are not democratic. And THOSE are not democratically chosen. We don't have to vote as a group on every word or policy Trump wants to pass. We don't get to vote against him blocking access to relevant people required to finish a DoJ investigation. So, if their objection was that Facebook should alter the results of the election, yes that would be crazy. But thats not the perspective afaik. You're throwing out basically all the actual context just to post this fairly narrow and worthless sentence that misses what they are actually protesting. How many lies or simply misleading information has come out of Trumps admin and by extension the news sites/commentators that are widely shared as fact on Facebook? It seems reasonable that people working on the platform aren't super stoked they are contributing to poor COVID responses and fake/deadly "cures" among the myriad of other pieces of misinformation spread across the platform which heavily leans towards Trump. So...yeah I think you're appropriating what they are saying so you can say something entirely unrelated.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> While the President himself may have been chosen democratically The President was chosen lawfully, in an outcome which sits in the space where the lawful process produces results at odds with democratic norms.