Have you considered that I _have_ heard these arguments and _have_ listened to these positions, and decided the person is wrong? In your worldview at what poin

Have you considered that I _have_ heard these arguments and _have_ listened to these positions, and decided the person is wrong? In your worldview at what point can I start rejecting people's positions? Why do I have to give ground here? "you can just lie" is a cynical position, of course, but people are faced with much larger dilemnas. I would like for people to have basic empathy and _not_ finance anti-civil rights movements. But hey, at least a public apology/fix does a bit of damage to the reactionary movement. And maybe they are actually a different person or have reflected on their actions, and it's not a lie. Nobody's a mind reader. And when you are directly affected/targeted by the movement that Eich is donating too, it's not just a conversation. The guy was funding an effort to take away your rights. Maybe consider that "you have to be nice to people trying to take away your rights" is something that relatively few people would actually subscribe to.