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So the future is internal combustion powered cars forever?

• ChuckMcM 6y ago
  No, but the industry around tapping excess energy for use on demand is not moving hydrogen around. It is either putting into the grid (if user wants it immediately), into a battery if the user is attached to the grid and wants it later, or turned into a transportable hydrocarbon (probably methane) for storage and transport where electrical infrastructure is either too expensive or otherwise unavailable.
  • Hypx 6y ago
    Except if you're making vast amounts of hydrocarbon such as methane at a cost effective rate, then there's little real incentive for any of the electric stuff. Internal combustion stays viable effectively forever.
    • ChuckMcM 6y ago
      Actually as the cost of electricity goes down the economics for electric vehicles stack. They are already a win from a maintenance perspective with fewer moving parts and fewer assemblies. As battery and regen technology improves wrt to charging, recovering charge from deceleration, and cost per kWH it just gets better still. LNG is not as efficient as diesel in an ICE, electricity however is more efficient. Lots of discussion here[1] [1] https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/03/f8/deer12_kargul.pdf https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/03/f8/deer12_ka...
      • Hypx 6y ago
        You can run the Fischer-Tropsch process and make any hydrocarbon fuel you want. Fuel efficiency of engines could exceed 50% in the near future. Remember, you're creating a scenario where we never figure out hydrogen, and therefore we'll be forced to make synfuels in vast quantities for a number of purposes. If you follow the nature tendency of capitalism, this will end give you hydrocarbon fuels so cheap that it wouldn't make sense to go with electric vehicles at all. At best, hybrids for that regenerative breaking ability.