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You're not impinging on the free speech of people when you push them off your platform, they are free to carry on spouting their repugnant shit if they want, it

by wlll 6y ago

You're not impinging on the free speech of people when you push them off your platform, they are free to carry on spouting their repugnant shit if they want, it's just that they have to build their own site, or even just try talking to people on the street about it. What you are doing when you allow racism or xenophobia on your site is helping them promote it. There's a difference, and the fact that you have chosen to stand with those people doesn't put you in the free speech group, it puts you in the "I am a racist" group.

throwa2233 6y ago
I consider myself fairly racist (recent development, ask me if you want to hear my point of view -- I'm sure you don't because you are morally superior and don't need to hear me out, right?) and to be honest, the #1 thing that sways people to my point of view is censorship on private platforms. In real life, I can calmly explain how intelligence is highly heritable, and usually I'll get a sort of "yeah, but we can't treat that as political reality" response. But when I say "I can't even mention that intelligence is highly heritable on Hacker News without getting banned", people are actually sympathetic! edit: https://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC4739500&blobtype=pdf https://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC4739... > In the context of current concerns about replication in psychological science, we describe 10 findings from behavioral genetic research that have robustly replicated. These are ‘big’ findings, both in terms of effect size and potential impact on psychological science, such as linearly increasing heritability of intelligence from infancy (20%) through adulthood (60%). Four of our top-10 findings involve the environment, discoveries that could only have been found using genetically sensitive research designs. We also consider reasons specific to behavioral genetics that might explain why these findings replicate
userbinator 6y ago
That's the classic "us vs them"/"if you're not with us you're against us" argument, and it's really the cause of the recent increase in divisiveness that is slowly destroying society.
- wlll 6y ago
  Not really. Choosing to help promote hate speech isn't a neutral position, it's an active one.

by wlll 6y ago

throwa2233 6y ago

I consider myself fairly racist (recent development, ask me if you want to hear my point of view -- I'm sure you don't because you are morally superior and don't need to hear me out, right?) and to be honest, the #1 thing that sways people to my point of view is censorship on private platforms. In real life, I can calmly explain how intelligence is highly heritable, and usually I'll get a sort of "yeah, but we can't treat that as political reality" response. But when I say "I can't even mention that intelligence is highly heritable on Hacker News without getting banned", people are actually sympathetic! edit: https://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC4739500&blobtype=pdf https://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC4739... > In the context of current concerns about replication in psychological science, we describe 10 findings from behavioral genetic research that have robustly replicated. These are ‘big’ findings, both in terms of effect size and potential impact on psychological science, such as linearly increasing heritability of intelligence from infancy (20%) through adulthood (60%). Four of our top-10 findings involve the environment, discoveries that could only have been found using genetically sensitive research designs. We also consider reasons specific to behavioral genetics that might explain why these findings replicate

userbinator 6y ago

That's the classic "us vs them"/"if you're not with us you're against us" argument, and it's really the cause of the recent increase in divisiveness that is slowly destroying society.

wlll 6y ago
Not really. Choosing to help promote hate speech isn't a neutral position, it's an active one.