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And you can be part of the solution! Isn't this nice?

by laksdjfkasljdf 6y ago

katbyte 6y ago
being part of the solution doesn't pay the bills
- deadalus 6y ago
  LBRY is viable for creators and the videos cannot be taken down permanently : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jyhy4Bcqgg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jyhy4Bcqgg
  - vaccinator 6y ago
    Doesn't https://lbry.tv/ https://lbry.tv/ host this video?
- j4nt4b 6y ago
  Paying the bills by being part of the problem is a personal decision
- ultrarunner 6y ago
  Neither does being de-platformed.
- lucb1e 6y ago
  Does it have to? Can we not have content made by whoever feels like it, like many of the articles popular on HN are not for profit, none of the (often insightful) comments are, the plethora of games and tools people create and share for free, etc.? For professional videos, until there is a law that specifies that a monopoly (currently Google YouTube does seem like the only place where money making is possible) has to follow certain rules, they can throw you out for virtually any reason and it's not a secure way of making a living. So maybe it should be, but it currently isn't, and we can't currently force them to be. Other platforms may not significantly help one to pay bills, I'm just wondering if that might not be okay given the sheer number of people who seem to have fun doing this. If not, we should make new laws.
  - eropple 6y ago
    > Can we not have content made by whoever feels like it Sure! We can definitely have charity content. Most of the content out there is. Somebody's paying for most of the content most people want to watch, though.
    - lucb1e 6y ago
      You mean paying bandwidth-wise? Because if you want bittorrent... we can do bittorrent. Bandwidth doesn't need to cost anything and can be made to prefer intra-ISP traffic quite easily. Better for everyone.
      - eropple 6y ago
        I mean paying for its existence; most of the content people consume is paid-for content whether by advertising (in one form or another) or direct support via Patreon and similar. And the reasons for this are ones I know firsthand; I am a video producer as well as a software developer. I could not afford to do the former without being the latter. Building a A reasonable-quality single-camera A/V rig that a video producer would actually want to work with is comfortably in the middle four digits. Three cameras, low five. That money must come from somewhere, as must the rationalization for the time in a world as productized and generally fucked as ours, and "that's OK, art and media can just be done by wildly wealthy dilettantes in their spare time" is a shitty world.
- Igelau 6y ago
  I like to imagine what the trade names of the future are going to be. When you meet someone on the Mars colony whose last name is Tuber and that bit of Snapple (best stuff off earth!) Cap wisdom perks up in your brain: "why, their great-grandpappy must have been one of the YouTube personalities on the first ship!" I think it was prompted by seeing the name "Hodler" once and thinking it sounded like the cryptocurrency equivalent of Wainwright or Cooper.
- vaccinator 6y ago
  After the initial setup, it doesn't cost much to post your videos on all platforms
- BGZq7 6y ago
  You can post to YouTube and also another platform, then on Patreon/Twitter/Facebook/etc always link the other platform instead of YouTube. That way you would still be discoverable on YouTube, but hopefully get some amount of traffic funneled over to the other platform in case YouTube kicks you off.

And you can be part of the solution! Isn't this nice?

katbyte 6y ago

being part of the solution doesn't pay the bills

deadalus 6y ago
LBRY is viable for creators and the videos cannot be taken down permanently : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jyhy4Bcqgg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jyhy4Bcqgg
- vaccinator 6y ago
  Doesn't https://lbry.tv/ https://lbry.tv/ host this video?
j4nt4b 6y ago
Paying the bills by being part of the problem is a personal decision
ultrarunner 6y ago
Neither does being de-platformed.
lucb1e 6y ago
Does it have to? Can we not have content made by whoever feels like it, like many of the articles popular on HN are not for profit, none of the (often insightful) comments are, the plethora of games and tools people create and share for free, etc.? For professional videos, until there is a law that specifies that a monopoly (currently Google YouTube does seem like the only place where money making is possible) has to follow certain rules, they can throw you out for virtually any reason and it's not a secure way of making a living. So maybe it should be, but it currently isn't, and we can't currently force them to be. Other platforms may not significantly help one to pay bills, I'm just wondering if that might not be okay given the sheer number of people who seem to have fun doing this. If not, we should make new laws.
- eropple 6y ago
  > Can we not have content made by whoever feels like it Sure! We can definitely have charity content. Most of the content out there is. Somebody's paying for most of the content most people want to watch, though.
  - lucb1e 6y ago
    You mean paying bandwidth-wise? Because if you want bittorrent... we can do bittorrent. Bandwidth doesn't need to cost anything and can be made to prefer intra-ISP traffic quite easily. Better for everyone.
    - eropple 6y ago
      I mean paying for its existence; most of the content people consume is paid-for content whether by advertising (in one form or another) or direct support via Patreon and similar. And the reasons for this are ones I know firsthand; I am a video producer as well as a software developer. I could not afford to do the former without being the latter. Building a A reasonable-quality single-camera A/V rig that a video producer would actually want to work with is comfortably in the middle four digits. Three cameras, low five. That money must come from somewhere, as must the rationalization for the time in a world as productized and generally fucked as ours, and "that's OK, art and media can just be done by wildly wealthy dilettantes in their spare time" is a shitty world.
Igelau 6y ago
I like to imagine what the trade names of the future are going to be. When you meet someone on the Mars colony whose last name is Tuber and that bit of Snapple (best stuff off earth!) Cap wisdom perks up in your brain: "why, their great-grandpappy must have been one of the YouTube personalities on the first ship!" I think it was prompted by seeing the name "Hodler" once and thinking it sounded like the cryptocurrency equivalent of Wainwright or Cooper.
vaccinator 6y ago
After the initial setup, it doesn't cost much to post your videos on all platforms
BGZq7 6y ago
You can post to YouTube and also another platform, then on Patreon/Twitter/Facebook/etc always link the other platform instead of YouTube. That way you would still be discoverable on YouTube, but hopefully get some amount of traffic funneled over to the other platform in case YouTube kicks you off.