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The argument is always made that the First Amendment doesn't protect speech hosted on corporate servers. I don't agree, I believe if you're operating without in

by donatj 6y ago

The argument is always made that the First Amendment doesn't protect speech hosted on corporate servers. I don't agree, I believe if you're operating without individual content review, you're hosting speech in the same way a telephone company is, but sure, I'll let you have it.. Regardless, that's where Article 19 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights comes in. > "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers" … - "any media" - "regardless of frontiers" Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

buhhh 6y ago
Well the first amendment isn't Article 19 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Not sure where you're going with that.
- donatj 6y ago
  The point is that speech hosted on "new frontiers" is protected by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, regardless to whether or not it's protected by the First Amendment.
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  - freeone3000 6y ago
    Hey, wanna guess what international human rights declaration the US is not a signatory of?
sudosysgen 6y ago
The US, as with most States, cares little about the UDHR. The only human rights you have are those that the government suffers too strong a penalty to disrespect, and there is no real penalty for running foul of the UDHR. It's sad, but it is what it is.
brandmeyer 6y ago
Treaties in the United States only have force through ratification. The USA ratified this declaration only with a suite of reservations that "the provisions of Article 1 through 27 of the Covenant are not self-executing" and they were quite clear that "the Covenant will not create a private cause of action in U.S. Courts." So the UDHR doesn't mean anything in the US. Even if it did, the broad protections for private property rights could be interpreted to mean that UDHR allows internet companies to drop anything from their private property that they don't feel like hosting for any reason at all. > (1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. > (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

by donatj 6y ago

buhhh 6y ago

Well the first amendment isn't Article 19 of the UN's Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Not sure where you're going with that.

donatj 6y ago
The point is that speech hosted on "new frontiers" is protected by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, regardless to whether or not it's protected by the First Amendment.
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- freeone3000 6y ago
  Hey, wanna guess what international human rights declaration the US is not a signatory of?

sudosysgen 6y ago

The US, as with most States, cares little about the UDHR. The only human rights you have are those that the government suffers too strong a penalty to disrespect, and there is no real penalty for running foul of the UDHR. It's sad, but it is what it is.

brandmeyer 6y ago

Treaties in the United States only have force through ratification. The USA ratified this declaration only with a suite of reservations that "the provisions of Article 1 through 27 of the Covenant are not self-executing" and they were quite clear that "the Covenant will not create a private cause of action in U.S. Courts." So the UDHR doesn't mean anything in the US. Even if it did, the broad protections for private property rights could be interpreted to mean that UDHR allows internet companies to drop anything from their private property that they don't feel like hosting for any reason at all. > (1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. > (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.