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With the right incentives it can go faster. > Clean transport transition leader Norway hit a huge 70.2% plugin passenger vehicle market share in August, up fro

With the right incentives it can go faster. > Clean transport transition leader Norway hit a huge 70.2% plugin passenger vehicle market share in August, up from 49% a year ago. Pure battery electrics alone took 53% of the market. https://cleantechnica.com/2020/09/02/norway-in-august-over-70-ev-market-share-and-heading-higher/ https://cleantechnica.com/2020/09/02/norway-in-august-over-7...

Svip 6y ago
I wish these articles would also count many are primary cars (i.e. a household replacing or buying a car, meaning they don't otherwise have one), and how many are secondary cars (i.e. in addition to another car, particularly non-EVs). My anecdotal evidence from Norway suggest most people get EVs as their secondary cars. I wish I had more numbers.
- bjelkeman-again 6y ago
  > The study found that 63% of Norwegian households with electric cars also have a fossil car or hybrid car, down from 70% in 2017. The survey also found that among respondents having only one car in the household, one third (32.4%) are electric car owners, up from 26.3% in 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Norway#2018_survey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_N...
loeg 6y ago
Norway heavily subsidized new electric vehicle purchases to achieve this result. Coincidentally, the principal for Norway's huge sovereign wealth fund comes largely from oil extraction.
- refurb 6y ago
  My understanding is at least for Tesla’s (and presumably other EVs), Norway just lower the enormous taxes they normally apply to ICE cars.
  - bradlys 6y ago
    Yes. 0% sales tax was what it was at. Whereas ICE was at 100%. Norway isn’t a good example of a country to follow because it’s an incredibly wealthy one that uses all its oil money to fund stuff. The people also get paid much more there than in other countries. In Norway, buying a Tesla was cheaper than buying a Honda Accord. It was also cheaper to maintain and run because you didn’t pay large tolls or what not either. Basically, everyone else was subsidizing electric car owners. Imagine paying $60k for a Honda Accord, having to pay large tolls, expensive gas, and so forth... and a Tesla isn’t taxed on any of that stuff. You’d get the Tesla just because it’s way cheaper!
rainyMammoth 6y ago
Norway taxes ICE cars in such a way that they virtually all cost MORE than an expensive electrical car. They are definitely not a good example of a free market choosing EVs because they are actually better.
- reducesuffering 6y ago
  A free market would account for it's externalities. If it costs 80k to remove the emissions your 20k ICE causes, then once the externalities are accounted for, your free market ICE should cost 100k...

Svip 6y ago

I wish these articles would also count many are primary cars (i.e. a household replacing or buying a car, meaning they don't otherwise have one), and how many are secondary cars (i.e. in addition to another car, particularly non-EVs). My anecdotal evidence from Norway suggest most people get EVs as their secondary cars. I wish I had more numbers.

bjelkeman-again 6y ago
> The study found that 63% of Norwegian households with electric cars also have a fossil car or hybrid car, down from 70% in 2017. The survey also found that among respondents having only one car in the household, one third (32.4%) are electric car owners, up from 26.3% in 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_Norway#2018_survey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plug-in_electric_vehicles_in_N...

loeg 6y ago

Norway heavily subsidized new electric vehicle purchases to achieve this result. Coincidentally, the principal for Norway's huge sovereign wealth fund comes largely from oil extraction.

refurb 6y ago
My understanding is at least for Tesla’s (and presumably other EVs), Norway just lower the enormous taxes they normally apply to ICE cars.
- bradlys 6y ago
  Yes. 0% sales tax was what it was at. Whereas ICE was at 100%. Norway isn’t a good example of a country to follow because it’s an incredibly wealthy one that uses all its oil money to fund stuff. The people also get paid much more there than in other countries. In Norway, buying a Tesla was cheaper than buying a Honda Accord. It was also cheaper to maintain and run because you didn’t pay large tolls or what not either. Basically, everyone else was subsidizing electric car owners. Imagine paying $60k for a Honda Accord, having to pay large tolls, expensive gas, and so forth... and a Tesla isn’t taxed on any of that stuff. You’d get the Tesla just because it’s way cheaper!

rainyMammoth 6y ago

Norway taxes ICE cars in such a way that they virtually all cost MORE than an expensive electrical car. They are definitely not a good example of a free market choosing EVs because they are actually better.

reducesuffering 6y ago
A free market would account for it's externalities. If it costs 80k to remove the emissions your 20k ICE causes, then once the externalities are accounted for, your free market ICE should cost 100k...