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The batteries, the supercharger network, the software. I think you’re reacting to the media presentation. Even though 100s of thousands of people have perfectl

by bwanab 6y ago

The batteries, the supercharger network, the software. I think you’re reacting to the media presentation. Even though 100s of thousands of people have perfectly fine operation every day, that isn’t going to make the news. The few breakages do.

Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
> the supercharger network This is so incredibly underappreciated. Are their other charging networks? Yes, certainly. But they're either too slow for road tripping, they're spread thin, and/or they're expensive. I can drive my Model 3 from my home in Portland, OR to any anywhere in the USA and never spend more than 30 minutes charging, with most stops being 10-20 minutes every 100-200 miles. I don't know what a typical supercharger costs as they vary on location, I just know that the one I've used is 29 cents per kWh. So to charge my Model 3's 75 kWh battery to full would cost $21.75, which would give me about 250 miles (It's rated at 299 miles, but you'll never get that unless you're going 55 mph with climate controls off), which is 8.7 cents per mile. If you assume gas is $3.50/gallon, then in terms of price per mile, it's the equivalent to a 40 mpg car. Other charging networks are usually 40 cents/kWh or more, while charging slower. Some have a ridiculous charge per minute rather than charging per kWh.
- thebigspacefuck 6y ago
  GasBuddy says gas near me is $1.99/gal for regular, so would that make it equivalent to a 23 mpg car?
  - Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
    Indeed it would. Keep in mind that the current massive dip in gas prices is temporary and only caused by COVID causing people to drive less. Once COVID goes away (however long THAT'S gonna take) and people start going out more and taking road trips, prices will return to their $3+. I bought my Tesla in October. I've had multiple people now ask me "Do you regret buying an EV since gas is so cheap right now?" and I think it's an incredibly short-sighted question. Besides, if you're buying an EV to save money on gas, then you're either bad at math, or you drive over 1,000 miles per week, because the money savings isn't enough to offset the price difference between an ICE and an EV until you start to reach 200,000 miles or so, where the lower maintenance costs start to also become a factor.
- speedgoose 6y ago
  It really depends on the location. In Norway the supercharger network isn't that interesting because other networks are more developed.

by bwanab 6y ago

Sohcahtoa82 6y ago

> the supercharger network This is so incredibly underappreciated. Are their other charging networks? Yes, certainly. But they're either too slow for road tripping, they're spread thin, and/or they're expensive. I can drive my Model 3 from my home in Portland, OR to any anywhere in the USA and never spend more than 30 minutes charging, with most stops being 10-20 minutes every 100-200 miles. I don't know what a typical supercharger costs as they vary on location, I just know that the one I've used is 29 cents per kWh. So to charge my Model 3's 75 kWh battery to full would cost $21.75, which would give me about 250 miles (It's rated at 299 miles, but you'll never get that unless you're going 55 mph with climate controls off), which is 8.7 cents per mile. If you assume gas is $3.50/gallon, then in terms of price per mile, it's the equivalent to a 40 mpg car. Other charging networks are usually 40 cents/kWh or more, while charging slower. Some have a ridiculous charge per minute rather than charging per kWh.

thebigspacefuck 6y ago
GasBuddy says gas near me is $1.99/gal for regular, so would that make it equivalent to a 23 mpg car?
- Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
  Indeed it would. Keep in mind that the current massive dip in gas prices is temporary and only caused by COVID causing people to drive less. Once COVID goes away (however long THAT'S gonna take) and people start going out more and taking road trips, prices will return to their $3+. I bought my Tesla in October. I've had multiple people now ask me "Do you regret buying an EV since gas is so cheap right now?" and I think it's an incredibly short-sighted question. Besides, if you're buying an EV to save money on gas, then you're either bad at math, or you drive over 1,000 miles per week, because the money savings isn't enough to offset the price difference between an ICE and an EV until you start to reach 200,000 miles or so, where the lower maintenance costs start to also become a factor.
speedgoose 6y ago
It really depends on the location. In Norway the supercharger network isn't that interesting because other networks are more developed.