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Why do we have so many people leaving the state and the biggest amount of homeless per capita? I am not saying our government is the worst, but it definitely do

Why do we have so many people leaving the state and the biggest amount of homeless per capita? I am not saying our government is the worst, but it definitely doesn’t seem to be meeting its own goals.

majormajor 6y ago
> Why do we have so many people leaving the state and the biggest amount of homeless per capita? I am not saying our government is the worst, but it definitely doesn’t seem to be meeting its own goals. and elsewhere > That has a lot to do with our tech oriented culture and weather. Most top professionals from other states want to move here or to New York. What are the policies from our leaders that have facilitated this growth? That’s like attributing the economy growth in the last 4 years to Trump. So if you have a lot of high paying inbound movement, you're gonna get a lot of very expensive places. "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded." Your stance here is just "ascribe the things you like things to luck or non-political factors, but blame the politicians for the aspects you don't like." It hardly seems fair.
- DevKoala 6y ago
  Yes, the absence livable wage non-tech jobs in California is a problem. I don’t understand what isn’t fair in highlighting the issues that are disappointing about the California government. There are alternatives beyond the two party system, but if we don’t even have the ability to recognize our issues, we’ll never get anything better.
  - majormajor 6y ago
    The "not fair" part is only ascribing responsibility for the bad stuff. Something that gets discussed here a lot is CA law on non-competes, which could have a pretty big impact on that tech business part of the economy. But you said the economy is due to "tech culture and weather" - not possibly any policy-related things. CA has gotten some things right, and some things wrong. But I don't think you did a good job demonstrating why you think, say, the state government is more to blame for cost of living than the private sector economy is (from a "infinite growth forever isn't sustainable" point of view, say, or a "things are inflated by a flood of private VC investment to unprofitable companies that are distorting markets").
JanisL 6y ago
I imagine that Proposition 13 is a factor in some of the issues by greatly benefiting anyone who bought real estate a long time ago at the expense of everyone else.

majormajor 6y ago

> Why do we have so many people leaving the state and the biggest amount of homeless per capita? I am not saying our government is the worst, but it definitely doesn’t seem to be meeting its own goals. and elsewhere > That has a lot to do with our tech oriented culture and weather. Most top professionals from other states want to move here or to New York. What are the policies from our leaders that have facilitated this growth? That’s like attributing the economy growth in the last 4 years to Trump. So if you have a lot of high paying inbound movement, you're gonna get a lot of very expensive places. "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded." Your stance here is just "ascribe the things you like things to luck or non-political factors, but blame the politicians for the aspects you don't like." It hardly seems fair.

DevKoala 6y ago
Yes, the absence livable wage non-tech jobs in California is a problem. I don’t understand what isn’t fair in highlighting the issues that are disappointing about the California government. There are alternatives beyond the two party system, but if we don’t even have the ability to recognize our issues, we’ll never get anything better.
- majormajor 6y ago
  The "not fair" part is only ascribing responsibility for the bad stuff. Something that gets discussed here a lot is CA law on non-competes, which could have a pretty big impact on that tech business part of the economy. But you said the economy is due to "tech culture and weather" - not possibly any policy-related things. CA has gotten some things right, and some things wrong. But I don't think you did a good job demonstrating why you think, say, the state government is more to blame for cost of living than the private sector economy is (from a "infinite growth forever isn't sustainable" point of view, say, or a "things are inflated by a flood of private VC investment to unprofitable companies that are distorting markets").

JanisL 6y ago

I imagine that Proposition 13 is a factor in some of the issues by greatly benefiting anyone who bought real estate a long time ago at the expense of everyone else.