fair enough. By "popular" i should have said "beloved". Objective-c was hated by pretty much everyone, and was mainly used because of iOS. i've yet to find an

fair enough. By "popular" i should have said "beloved". Objective-c was hated by pretty much everyone, and was mainly used because of iOS. i've yet to find an iOS developer that actually doesn't wish he could code in swift on the server side. It's a really pleasant language.