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What would it take for you to be convinced after you wake up this morning that you had this condition and the year was actually 2035 right now? Rot13 after you

What would it take for you to be convinced after you wake up this morning that you had this condition and the year was actually 2035 right now? Rot13 after you've thought of an answer: Abj nfx lbhefrys, ubj uneq jbhyq vg ernyyl or sbe gung gb or snxrq?

aaomidi 6y ago
My phone's clock and going to Google.com and being able to load it. Assuming it's still around. If not I doubt it'll fail with a cert error.
- briefcomment 6y ago
  Imagine waking up and seeing an iPhone for the very first time. In 2005, the latest phone he probably had was some flip phone.
  - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
    "Ah sweet, what else do we have? Are all cars electric? Did we make a manned flight to Mars? Have we cured cancer?" "Oh, that's about it. We have iPhones now. And to be honest, they are kind of a problem."
  - ilkkao 6y ago
    The article should have explained this in little more detail. Does he have a 2005 phone, probably Nokia Symbian? Or does he actually remember something and can use android or iphone. In the first case, a written note in his own handwriting would make more sense I guess.
  - cgriswald 6y ago
    ...and then going outside and seeing an orange sky and all the people wearing masks.
  - mikestew 6y ago
    Imagine you were me in 2005 with an HTC 8125 that had a sliding keyboard with actual QWERTY keys, and I wake up to find that all “smart” phones are black slabs of glass that I’m suppose to poke at with my paws like some kind of animal. I’ve since come to terms with the glass keyboard of my iPhone, but I maintain that it was not progress. Besides, the person in the story was only two years out from seeing an iPhone for the first time, like everyone else at the time.
    - samatman 6y ago
      Yeah. I prefer a slab of glass all around, but I went straight to smartphones from flip phones. I've yet to meet a HipTop user who thinks that the modern smartphone is an across-the-board improvement.
  - gruez 6y ago
    So what would be the equivalent for 2035? Everyone using AR devices or neuralink?
    - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
      We'll only know when we get there, but I'd hazard a guess it'll be more conventional as extrapolations on tech we have now, instead of more experimental stuff. AR doesn't seem to have much movement, and neuralink is still in that realm of promising way more than it's proving.
SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
"Hey Google, what is the date?"
willcipriano 6y ago
A trip to https://time.gov/ https://time.gov/ on a device that I trust would convince me.
- TomAnthony 6y ago
  But all your devices stopped working back in 2027 when <insert plausible reason>.
  - zaptrem 6y ago
    Good chance it will be related to encryption (assuming big sites like Google continue backwards compatibility with modern JavaScript for a long time). "This site no longer supports clients connecting over TLS 1.2" or something like that in 2035? Might we have post-quantum TLS by then?
- ars 6y ago
  > on a device that I trust How would you accomplish this part?
  - jeremyjh 6y ago
    Go to a library, or Best Buy or the Apple store in the mall and use their computer.
    - ars 6y ago
      "It's 15 years later none of those things exist, people never leave their house, and all deliveries are by robots, and people interact by AR." (Yikes....)
cgriswald 6y ago
When I was younger I lived with my grandparents and young uncle. My uncle and I pulled an all-nighter playing video games. I had work the next evening at 5 a bar/restaurant. I went to bed exhausted about when the sun came up. The next thing I knew, my uncle was waking me up frantically, telling me I’d be late for work. It felt like I’d barely slept. I looked at the clock and it said 4:30. I jumped out of bed, grabbed my uniform, brushed my teeth and glanced at a different clock, kind of in disbelief and wondering how I was going to make it though this shift so tired. It was 4:40. I ran towards the kitchen ready to go and looked for my keys, glancing again at yet another clock to make sure I was leaving in time. 4:45. I was going to just make it. That’s when I noticed The Price is Right playing on the television. I don’t know what time it’s on now, but then it had been running from 10-11 am as long as I had been alive. My uncle had changed every clock in the house in preparation for this prank. I wanted to kill him but instead just collapsed in bed, uniform and all.
- dctoedt 6y ago
  Once in a prior life I collapsed into bed, exhausted, around midnight. Woke up feeling refreshed. Glanced at my (analog) watch, saw that it was about 07:10. Got up, got dressed, shaved. Glanced at my watch again: It was now about 01:50. I'd been asleep for just a couple of hours. Back to the rack.
xoa 6y ago
>What would it take for you to be convinced after you wake up this morning that you had this condition and the year was actually 2035 right now? Looking in the mirror? Even getting out of bed? I mean seriously, it seems straight forward, albeit with a minor complication. On the simple side, well 15 years quite a while right? A mirror and the feeling of moving around and my own body alone would drive home it wasn't 2020 quite directly. My significant other/kids/family will be changed (this may also be immensely painful, beloved pets will certainly be gone and maybe some family too). Friends, jobs, companies, all will be different. Not just the news but the environment in general will probably be pretty different in many places. And of course as this is HN, by 2035 there will be fairly massive technology changes one way or another too. Wearable displays, far more ubiquitous connected stuff, etc., or if not only because of devastating societal changes which themselves would be fairly obvious. I guess one minor complication though is that an inability to form long term memories would mean that new things and tech couldn't be persistently learned either, and in turn there'd be direct reason to keep much of your home frozen in time to keep things more comfortable, which might slightly disrupt belief for a short period (before aging made it impossible to ignore). Anything that couldn't be relearned in a matter of minutes would probably be disfavored. Even in theoretical future shock type scenarios where somebody wakes up after being frozen or something, there is the inherent fact usually that they can at least start learning about what they missed and begin building a new life. Not being able to do that would be particularly painful, so much incredible cool stuff but not being able to hack on it. Future shock every single day. Somebody talked about checking their phone, but in 2005 we didn't have smartphones at all, and in 2035 we may not either (because they'll all have been obsoleted by advanced WDs or implants or who knows). Far better AI assistants though could probably be a big differentiator. Full human quality natural language interaction, a full daily rundown and routine, explanations and handling advanced tech, it'd be a clear change that could be experienced and probed conversationally. But my real hope would be that by 2035 neuroscience has advanced enough to be able to deal with it!
mcphage 6y ago
That was the plot of one of the Professor Layton games—the characters thought that they were brought into the future, but really it was an underground facility designed to fool people into thinking it was the future. Professor Layton games have this thing where, the explanation seems to be supernatural (or involve far future technologies), but then you discover the truth, and it's always, always something completely unbelievable and incredibly unsatisfying.
birdyrooster 6y ago
time.apple.com
octoberfranklin 6y ago
A blockchain 1438156 blocks tall with valid proofs-of-work. > Abj nfx lbhefrys, ubj uneq jbhyq vg ernyyl or sbe gung gb or snxrq? Vastly more money than anybody is going to spend trying to fool me. See, all you HN crypto-haters, it's good for something after all! ;)

aaomidi 6y ago

My phone's clock and going to Google.com and being able to load it. Assuming it's still around. If not I doubt it'll fail with a cert error.

briefcomment 6y ago
Imagine waking up and seeing an iPhone for the very first time. In 2005, the latest phone he probably had was some flip phone.
- SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
  "Ah sweet, what else do we have? Are all cars electric? Did we make a manned flight to Mars? Have we cured cancer?" "Oh, that's about it. We have iPhones now. And to be honest, they are kind of a problem."
- ilkkao 6y ago
  The article should have explained this in little more detail. Does he have a 2005 phone, probably Nokia Symbian? Or does he actually remember something and can use android or iphone. In the first case, a written note in his own handwriting would make more sense I guess.
- cgriswald 6y ago
  ...and then going outside and seeing an orange sky and all the people wearing masks.
- mikestew 6y ago
  Imagine you were me in 2005 with an HTC 8125 that had a sliding keyboard with actual QWERTY keys, and I wake up to find that all “smart” phones are black slabs of glass that I’m suppose to poke at with my paws like some kind of animal. I’ve since come to terms with the glass keyboard of my iPhone, but I maintain that it was not progress. Besides, the person in the story was only two years out from seeing an iPhone for the first time, like everyone else at the time.
  - samatman 6y ago
    Yeah. I prefer a slab of glass all around, but I went straight to smartphones from flip phones. I've yet to meet a HipTop user who thinks that the modern smartphone is an across-the-board improvement.
- gruez 6y ago
  So what would be the equivalent for 2035? Everyone using AR devices or neuralink?
  - SketchySeaBeast 6y ago
    We'll only know when we get there, but I'd hazard a guess it'll be more conventional as extrapolations on tech we have now, instead of more experimental stuff. AR doesn't seem to have much movement, and neuralink is still in that realm of promising way more than it's proving.

SketchySeaBeast 6y ago

"Hey Google, what is the date?"

willcipriano 6y ago

A trip to https://time.gov/ https://time.gov/ on a device that I trust would convince me.

TomAnthony 6y ago
But all your devices stopped working back in 2027 when <insert plausible reason>.
- zaptrem 6y ago
  Good chance it will be related to encryption (assuming big sites like Google continue backwards compatibility with modern JavaScript for a long time). "This site no longer supports clients connecting over TLS 1.2" or something like that in 2035? Might we have post-quantum TLS by then?
ars 6y ago
> on a device that I trust How would you accomplish this part?
- jeremyjh 6y ago
  Go to a library, or Best Buy or the Apple store in the mall and use their computer.
  - ars 6y ago
    "It's 15 years later none of those things exist, people never leave their house, and all deliveries are by robots, and people interact by AR." (Yikes....)

cgriswald 6y ago

When I was younger I lived with my grandparents and young uncle. My uncle and I pulled an all-nighter playing video games. I had work the next evening at 5 a bar/restaurant. I went to bed exhausted about when the sun came up. The next thing I knew, my uncle was waking me up frantically, telling me I’d be late for work. It felt like I’d barely slept. I looked at the clock and it said 4:30. I jumped out of bed, grabbed my uniform, brushed my teeth and glanced at a different clock, kind of in disbelief and wondering how I was going to make it though this shift so tired. It was 4:40. I ran towards the kitchen ready to go and looked for my keys, glancing again at yet another clock to make sure I was leaving in time. 4:45. I was going to just make it. That’s when I noticed The Price is Right playing on the television. I don’t know what time it’s on now, but then it had been running from 10-11 am as long as I had been alive. My uncle had changed every clock in the house in preparation for this prank. I wanted to kill him but instead just collapsed in bed, uniform and all.

dctoedt 6y ago
Once in a prior life I collapsed into bed, exhausted, around midnight. Woke up feeling refreshed. Glanced at my (analog) watch, saw that it was about 07:10. Got up, got dressed, shaved. Glanced at my watch again: It was now about 01:50. I'd been asleep for just a couple of hours. Back to the rack.

xoa 6y ago

>What would it take for you to be convinced after you wake up this morning that you had this condition and the year was actually 2035 right now? Looking in the mirror? Even getting out of bed? I mean seriously, it seems straight forward, albeit with a minor complication. On the simple side, well 15 years quite a while right? A mirror and the feeling of moving around and my own body alone would drive home it wasn't 2020 quite directly. My significant other/kids/family will be changed (this may also be immensely painful, beloved pets will certainly be gone and maybe some family too). Friends, jobs, companies, all will be different. Not just the news but the environment in general will probably be pretty different in many places. And of course as this is HN, by 2035 there will be fairly massive technology changes one way or another too. Wearable displays, far more ubiquitous connected stuff, etc., or if not only because of devastating societal changes which themselves would be fairly obvious. I guess one minor complication though is that an inability to form long term memories would mean that new things and tech couldn't be persistently learned either, and in turn there'd be direct reason to keep much of your home frozen in time to keep things more comfortable, which might slightly disrupt belief for a short period (before aging made it impossible to ignore). Anything that couldn't be relearned in a matter of minutes would probably be disfavored. Even in theoretical future shock type scenarios where somebody wakes up after being frozen or something, there is the inherent fact usually that they can at least start learning about what they missed and begin building a new life. Not being able to do that would be particularly painful, so much incredible cool stuff but not being able to hack on it. Future shock every single day. Somebody talked about checking their phone, but in 2005 we didn't have smartphones at all, and in 2035 we may not either (because they'll all have been obsoleted by advanced WDs or implants or who knows). Far better AI assistants though could probably be a big differentiator. Full human quality natural language interaction, a full daily rundown and routine, explanations and handling advanced tech, it'd be a clear change that could be experienced and probed conversationally. But my real hope would be that by 2035 neuroscience has advanced enough to be able to deal with it!

mcphage 6y ago

That was the plot of one of the Professor Layton games—the characters thought that they were brought into the future, but really it was an underground facility designed to fool people into thinking it was the future. Professor Layton games have this thing where, the explanation seems to be supernatural (or involve far future technologies), but then you discover the truth, and it's always, always something completely unbelievable and incredibly unsatisfying.

birdyrooster 6y ago

time.apple.com

octoberfranklin 6y ago

A blockchain 1438156 blocks tall with valid proofs-of-work. > Abj nfx lbhefrys, ubj uneq jbhyq vg ernyyl or sbe gung gb or snxrq? Vastly more money than anybody is going to spend trying to fool me. See, all you HN crypto-haters, it's good for something after all! ;)